"orphanage behaviors"

Hayden does freak out if he drops food on the floor. He ALWAYS wants to get it picked up right away if he realizes he did it. He loves water poured over his back - but SCREAMS when we wash his hair! He gets really mad when the plug is pulled on the tub. He would spend the night in the tub if we let him! He has began to brush his teeth with toothpaste the last couple days. The first week or so - he flipped out completly when we tried to brush his teeth. We backed off and stopped for a couple days and then started letting him get used to the feel by doing it himself with a wet toothbrush. Now there is no issue at all. We guess that he never had his teeth brushed in the orphanage. He also rocks his head and body back and forth and sucks his hand at bedtime (along with sobbing and crying the entire time - even with us rocking him). Helena likes to be rocked to sleep by me in the rocker or falls asleep in her swing. I'm not sure if that is orphanage or just a baby thing. She falls asleep really easily at night and nap time with no odd behaviors or rituals. One very odd behavior is that Hayden knows how to operate a shovel and a dust pan and broom properly, as well as check rugs to see if they have airdried completely outside. We are VERY suspicios that it was a "hard knock life" and that "Annie" isn't all fictional. What three year old picks up a shovel like a man and begins to dig holes in the mulch or sweeps up after himself? He certainly never saw either of us doing it - so he must either be very observant or we adopted a member of the orpahange staff!

:) Our preschoolers also take their plates (and ours) over to the kitchen after we eat and they insist on wiping down their areas where they ate... there are very few "messes" in our house... I think the orphanage staff must have made our boys little neatnicks! They also like to wipe their face and hands off and be neat and clean which is sort of unusual for preschool boys... now they WILL get dirty like all boys like to, but they also like to clean up! I noticed one night too that Tim (the older one) folded his towel and washcloth after a bath... which cracked me up! they also love brooms and dustpans and try to help often They also know how to make their bed... its just a sheet and comforter, very do-ab le for a4 and 5 year old but i've taught them to make their bed and dress themselves in the morning before school and then they get their morning treat. I have to admit that they are great helpers and work really hard to please..... I feel like I've fell into a dream compared to other mothers with bio kids that i've talked to! :) alli

My son, now 9 years, had a horrible habit of taking off his diaper and spreading poop everywhere-- finally we solved this by dressing him in blanket sleepers, cutting out the feet, and zipping them up backwards.

Ok - we definately brought home two members of the baby home cleaning staff! My girls are hilarious...they like to steal a few baby wipes while I am cleaning the house - the next thing you know I hear them "mama clean" and they are wiping everything down with the wipes...and they actually do a pretty good job! They actually argue over who gets to clean up the occasional spill in our home! I read in some book that a proactive punishment for drawing on the walls with crayons, was to give the child a rag and soap and have her scrub it off...HA! My girls would die and go to heaven if I gave them a bucket of water and a rag...LOL! The only other issue we dealt with was the bath issue for the first two weeks or so. The girls would FREAK if a hair or fuzz was floating in the bath water...it was like Jaws had just emerged from the deep! Now we have finally taught them that the hair is not alive and it is not coming to get them!

My son would FREAK about food. The first time I took him to eat at K-Mart, the cook thought he was soooo cute, that she gave him a cookie in a little baggie. He loaded EVERYTHING (salt, pepper, sugar, jelly packets, toast crusts) into the baggie and carried it with him everywhere. Even to sleep. And he carried a bag of Mega Bloks everywhere. I guess it was the only thing that was every really his. We walked the dog and the Mega Bloks, we went for a ride and so did the Mega Bloks. He insisted at 2 1/2 to wash himself in the tub. He balled up the cloth and scubbed himself down. Then folded his washcloth neatly and placed it over the faucet. And everything had to line up and be in it's place.

Our child was only 9 months when he got home, but we noticed that he ate everything we displayed to him - whether he was full or not. He would eat until honestly, it was spilling right back out his mouth. It took a few months to teach him what "full" felt like. He also hated water in the bath at first, and still hates when a wipe or wet washcloth touches his hands or face. Makes it a challenge to clean up after meals!

Great thread! I was absolutely not prepared not to snuggle with my little one constantly. I've talked to several friends, and same experiences. My daughter was 1 when we brought her home. She had to learn how to hug (even though we observed her caregivers doing it often in the orphanage.) At first, I thought she just wasn't a snuggly baby. She'd give a quick snuggle, and be off. When she had her first bout with the flu (fever, etc.), she laid in my arms constantly, and I cuddled her. She didn't have the strength or desire to move, and learned that cuddling was comforting. My pediatrician said this is normal behavior for institutionalized kids. When they are ill, they are given meds perhaps, but not hours of TLC with touching. She now comes to us regularly initiating hugs, kisses, and snuggles more as a toddler. Hope this helps....one thing I wish I'd known. Andrea

oh yeah, that is a good one,... our youngest one will carry as many things as he can in as many types of containers he can find. If he has a gift bag or a box or a backpack or anything and you'll find many things crammed in there... .this is really bad when you bring his backpack home from preschool and he's squirred away several school toys! :)

My pre-schooler has been home 6 months. She was terrified of the bath for the first weeks we were in Russia, but by the time we came home, she asked for it!! She loves the water now!1 She still has trouble chewing meat, or any food that requires much chewing, I believe that the food they got in the orphanage was oatmeal consistency, or yogurt. She also squirrels away toys and small parts to toys, she picks up fuzz from the floor, paper, anything she can see,pick and collect ( which we are working on). She is fastidious about herself. She will use 3-4 napkins per meal, each time she takes a bite, she has to wipe her mouth!! She is always wiping her hands and face. Also, when I am cleaning the house,she will take a doll blanket or wipe and imitate me cleaning, and gets great pleasure of "tiding up" her room of all her toys. When she is done with a toy, she will always put it away without us asking her to do so!! They must have been very well trained to pick up after themseves. She also dresses herself with minimal assistance. They truly are amazing children!! :D

My son proclaims everything as "mine." He even constantly says, "my mommy" and "my daddy." Obviously he is reminding everyone around him that he owns whatever it is, especially when other children are around. The water thing is interesting. Our son did not like baths at all for the first month, now he loves them. But, he is still absolutely scared to death of the shower. I'm guessing that at his orphanage they must have sprayed the kids with water at bathtime. Our son also used to turn his head back and forth before falling asleep and sing a little song to himself. He doesn't do it anymore. He has been home for about 16 months now, so maybe he has forgotten it.

I agree! Alexander screamed during baths, teeth brushing, and even diaper changes, for many weeks after we were home. He still is very conscious about crumbs/dropping food. We started out not being able to fill him up, but once the trust was there that we were feeding him regularly, he began to be picky! He obviously knew about napkins/cleaning up. Esp. cleaning up toys and putting them away--all I have to do is ask! He does sucks his thumb and still rocks and bangs himself to sleep...this is something the therapists are working on with us. He was initially VERY afraid of anyone but my husband and myself. He would cling with "the death grip", burry his head in my shoulder, and stuff his thumb in his mouth! Now, he doesn't do that, but is still hesitant with new people. Many people will say their adoptive child will do some of these things, but many do not. I do think it's wise to prepare...but mostly think of it all as transition--the child has been taken from all they've ever known. It's quite challenging for them.

DD hated baths too. I bathed with her for the first three months. It wasn't until she saw her cousins having fun in the bath that she was willing to go in alone. We gave her the teething biscuits that they gave her in the orphanage and she would carry it around for hours -- we called it her security cookie. Eventually (after a few weeks) she realized that there was always another one, so she started eating them a lot! After every bite of food she would present her face for wiping. It was obvious that she was kept quite clean. She also didn't (and still doesn't) like any flecks of dirt on her tray.

We brought our son home at 7 months of age and he used to sing himself to sleep but since he was either rocked or now has his own music to play, that stopped. The one thing I noticed was his awe at anything on the walls or his sheets. I had printed sheets that i needed to remove and replace with white. No mobile at all. The 1st day he was home with us and I tried to feed him, he just kept looking around the kitchen. He was not used to so many objects on the walls. He understood that I was the one who fed him so I had to be there to feed him. It took a couple of months before he would let anyone else do it. I guess he was scared that he would not get food if I was not around. He is over that now by a long shot, so it does improve. He always loved his bath and still does. I gave him a bath in the hotel sink in Moscow and he just loved it. We make a ritual every night and now we read before he goes to bed - 22 months old now. He ate everything in the beginning and it did have to be mashed up. There are still certain foods he won't eat unless they are mashed. He does line up his cups on his crib though and is very meticulous about certain things. I don't think this is orphanage behavior at this point but I don't know either.

Hi, we adopted 2 toddlers at the end of may. This thread is extremley helpful. My son wants to eat everything, after meals he goes around on the floor to see what was dropped, he is never satisfied. If we let him, he would eat til he exploded. It use to be difficult to go grocery shopping because he saw all the food and wanted it but now he is fine at the store. On the other hand, I couldnt get our daughter to eat much. But now I see from other messages it was probably because she was use to having her food mashed. And I finally did start giving her baby foods, and mashed things which she does eat. She doesnt like anything chunky and meat has to be in very tiny pieces or pureed. Our daughter also does the rocking when she is mad, frustrated, or going to sleep. She cant be held and rocked to sleep by us she has to be left alone or she wont go to sleep. Our son loves to put everything away. When I spilled milk on the floor he grabbed a towel and wiped it up. Amazing! Our son is scared of loud noises, new people, and new places. But, most of these behaviors are getting better with time. Tracy

Our little man has been home for 5 long years now and he has made tremendous leaps and bounds! He still will occassionally rock himself when he is very very tired, but this is not often. When he came home he was 14 months old. We would let him rock, but we wanted the bonding time so we held him on our tummies or lap as he did it and often we rocked with him. This behavior eased off within a year of coming home. The cleaning is so funny. He could not deal with cupboard doors being open. I had to put grocieries away when he was outdoors, sleeping or off with dad because he would shut them even as I was unpacking grocieries! He also loved the broom, shovels, very much a neat freak. But alas, all good things must end. He is now a normal little boy of 6 years old and is always covered in dirt and mud and his room is a pigsty! LOL! He still does not like to have dirty hands. If it is wet, sticky and he can feel it it must be washed off fast! As for things being MINE, well, he refused to remove his shoes for the first 2 weeks. So we had to cut the feet from his pjs and bought very soft moccosins for him to wear. And he had to be able to SEE them when he was in the bath or we could not get him in the tub. He did love the water though. Still does. He runs out the hot water every night during his shower. And he wa amazed that he was allowed to touch things at first, the walls, toys, clothes, my hair, etc. every child will have certain behaviors, but they do ease once they are feeling secure in their new family and surroundings. You will all be so amazed at how fast they change and grow and how completely full they make your heart feel! Take lots of pictures because soon you will not believe how big they are!!!! :D