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BethVA62
I've gone from "the lady who gave birth to me" "birthlady" (I remember driving Raven nuts with those LOL there was no way I was gonna use the M word in any way)... to now finally just plain ole Momma like the rest of her kids call her.
(((((Beth)))))
Lol, last night when I saw the reference to "birth lady," I had the same reaction I used to back in the old days when you were referring to your mother as your birthlady. I was tempted to add the tag line that Paige used to have under her avatar, "Wonder Womb," but then I just decided I needed to have some chamomile tea and go to bed, lol. We've all come so far these past seven or eight years! :prop:
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RavenSong
(((((Beth)))))
We've all come so far these past seven or eight years! :prop:
I'm sooooo happy for that! I never would have thunk it back then tho. I'm glad I argued with so many people over the years LOL
Along with that time thing, reading and tons of typing really is worth the trouble, way worth it. It really is true that it heals. Tea is even so much better these days! ((((((Raven))))))
I found and met my "biological mother" in 1996 when MY MOM was dying of breast, bone and brain cancer. I allowed this woman into my life, the lives of my children and she turned out to be the most evil, self centered person I have ever met! Now, all these years later, I refer to her as strictly "Gloria" and not much is said about her now. I have cut her completely out of our lives 4 years ago after she burned me for the final time. I now am in the process of looking for my biological father and my younger sister. I did not have a good relationship with Gloria, so I guess I'm not the right person to answer this.:confused:
Foggy95
I found and met my "biological mother" in 1996 when MY MOM was dying of breast, bone and brain cancer. I allowed this woman into my life, the lives of my children and she turned out to be the most evil, self centered person I have ever met! Now, all these years later, I refer to her as strictly "Gloria" and not much is said about her now. I have cut her completely out of our lives 4 years ago after she burned me for the final time. I now am in the process of looking for my biological father and my younger sister. I did not have a good relationship with Gloria, so I guess I'm not the right person to answer this.:confused:
Froggy, I think you are just as right of a person as any of us.
It's one thing to say my biological mother, Gloria, sucks so I choose not to have a relationship with her.
A whole nother thing to deny her as your mother of some kind.
I hope you find your biological father and that side of your family to be what you hope them to be.
Foggy95
I found and met my "biological mother" in 1996 when MY MOM was dying of breast, bone and brain cancer. I allowed this woman into my life, the lives of my children and she turned out to be the most evil, self centered person I have ever met! Now, all these years later, I refer to her as strictly "Gloria" and not much is said about her now. I have cut her completely out of our lives 4 years ago after she burned me for the final time. I now am in the process of looking for my biological father and my younger sister. I did not have a good relationship with Gloria, so I guess I'm not the right person to answer this.:confused:
Foggy, I hope you have a better relationship with your sister and biodad. I've never met the person that gave birth to me, but I know there are no relationships for me there. I wish you luck in your search for a kind and caring birthfamily. *hug*
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I am wondering why the experience of pregnancy is not acknowledged in these discussions. It's as if it never happened - as if, instead, someone went through the mild but temporary discomfort of birth then moved on.
My reality was that I lived with my pregnancy for almost a year, through all four seasons, changing as my baby changed, talking to him, feeling him move about in the middle of the night, and trying to find that place in the world where he would be loved enough. I never had the confidence to realise that place was me; I was too young, and too inexperienced to ward off the manipulations of the adults around me.
But I often lay in the dark in the middle of the night, wondering what to do, and feeling, in a very private and inner way, the life of my baby. He would also have had a sense of the life of me, and I believe that is what he came to find when he came searching for me.
I am not a birthmother, I am a mother. Pregnancy lasts a long time, and we did it together. We also went through the great struggle of birth together. Why is all this minimised or dismissed?
Me and my son are something special to each other and we both want that respected. I am not a farmyard animal, I am a complex feeling person who lost my son, and nothing goes deeper than that. He lost me, his mother, and that caused him deep pain, and that should be honoured too. We are not disposable to each other.
We are not a little blip in each others lives, we are something deep and unique.
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sylvieboots
I am wondering why the experience of pregnancy is not acknowledged in these discussions. It's as if it never happened - as if, instead, someone went through the mild but temporary discomfort of birth then moved on.
Why is all this minimised or dismissed?
I think you might consider looking at it from an Adoptee point of view, especially since it was posted here in that support forum. For some Adoptees, what you describe with your son is simply not their reality. Some bmoms don't have the same experience either, for that matter. That's ok. Just as it's ok for you to have your reality.:)
Ah, my mistake. I'm used to posting on a different forum where topics tend to get feedback from anyone with experience of adoption, so you get a myriad of views on a single topic. I'll remove it.
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Sylvieboots,
I appreciate your comments on this forum.... I am an adoptee. I fully believe that I have two mothers and two fathers.
I do not discount my mother's struggle and pain. She's never going to come out of the closet and fully acknowledge me, but I know that she loved her baby.
You don't need to apologize or delete. I was just answering your question as to why in this specific thread you might not see more concern given to the bmom. All input is welcomed - it's just not always the same, is all!:)
My biological mother Gloria is nothing but an incubator in my mind. I was adopted at 6 weeks of age, so I only knew one set of parents, until I was 29 and decided to find Gloria. I found her within a week and I've regretted the decision ever since. This woman is probably the most self-centered, hateful woman I have ever met. I thank the goddess every night that the police took me away from her the night I was born. She had her parents raise her son who is 3 yrs older than me, and then there is the younger sister that I have out there, that was placed up for adoption about 2-3 yrs after I was born. I tried to have a relationship with Gloria, but after a few years of me having to do all the work, I said forget it, it's not worth my time or my energy. My mom (the only mom I have) passed away 16yrs ago, so I am parent-less now, but have 5 kids of my own to keep me busy. Gloria no longer exists in my life or my thoughts.
As an mom via adoption, I have struggled with this on behalf of my 2 year old son. I hate titles, so I have struggled. I also know that my "title" for her will have a direct effect as to how my son sees her. Since she is deceased, it really won't matter as to her "feelings" and since his birth dad disappeared, I haven't really considered his feelings as well. (sounds harsh when I print it out!!)
But for my son, I will continue to refer to his family as his brother and sister, his Mimi (bio gramdma) and his birthmom. She never changed his diaper, she never fed him, but she did deliver him healthy and whole. She was his first mom no matter the circumstances.
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I think one of the hardest things for many, if not most, humans is trying to find peace in their own minds with their mothers and fathers.
It isn't always easy for me, I know that much. I've found it's important for my own well being.
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Ah Crick, thanks. I'm fairly unpractised on this site, so I'll probably stumble about a bit before getting it right.
Just to be clear, I really wasn't asking why more concern wasn't shown to the bmom. I was just really perplexed why the experience of pregnancy seems so often to be erased. After all, it lasts such a long time, is extremely and uniquely close physically, and is a something that both mother and child experience together, whether consciously or unconsiously.
When discussions or descriptors focus solely on the birth (which in itself is an immense experience), I think to myself 'why is the really profound and very obvious experience of pregnancy being erased? Dismissed? Where has that time of shared experience gone?' It feels to me like such a long and important time (I can still remember vividly the feeling of my son's elbow or heel under my ribs, and that was over 3 decades ago!), and so unique and precious to us, but it seems so vanished in the general adoption discourse. Just my thoughts, that's all.
L4R, thank you for your lovely words.
Alabama Mommy, she did feed him. During her pregnancy.