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We are looking to adopt aged outs / ex-foster kids!
My wife and I both work and need to as it is not a
good time to sell our real estate.
If he is 18 years or more we do not need to be at home
all day.
We hope to adopt younger foster kids later.
It would be great if some one could start a site where families and aged outs / ex-foster
kids could put up profiles.
Dr. Wes Crenshaw just e-mailed me saying he is thinking
about how to do this.
I e-mail Dr. Wes Crenshaw after reading an article.
Just google the title below in " marks.
"Ex-foster kid feels lost without adult support"
I know many ex-foster kids are not looking for
families but that may be because they do not have a good
site to put up a profile.
If kids are in the foster care system they often
have profile and photos etc but the second they
age out they are gone.
Just think about the following.
(note that M and I are doing all the paper
work to adopt through the foster care system but it will
take about four month more)
But think about the following.
People (my wife and I included) are happy
to go through a criminal background check
but many of us do not like to have the state
or county come in our home!!
Just because we cannot have kids we have the
state come in our home to see if we are good enough
to have kids!!
Any guy out there can have kids without the state
checking on them but my wife and I who are hard working
go to work on time and are clean need the state to come
in our home and ask us a lot of questions.
Yes I know the state has it's reasons.
SORRY FOR JUST LETTING IT ALL OUT LIKE THIS. LOL
I do want to make some points and I thought I needed to
set the stage.
The points:
Point #1
Adult adoptions are very easy with very little
paper work. Just google state by state Adult adoptions law.
Point #2
I think many more people would adopt if you (ex-foster kid)
or your agent could do a criminal background check
on the family looking to adopt you. With Adult adoptions
it is up to you (the person being adopted) to decide how
much or little to look at the family adopting you.
Point #3
We need a site where ex-foster kids can put up a profile
as well as couple's profiles looking to adopt. Hey you may
be looking for a better mom and dad than we can be. lol
I hope we can have some humor about this.:)
If you want to help build this web site or
you have info that could us let us know.
Your thoughts please!!
Post or send private message.
J-and-M
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We adopted three adults. All three were our foster kids before we adopted them. All three were refused tpr by DCFS, so we had no choice but to wait until they were adults before adopting them.
Although the red tape is lessened (ONLY bc we had fostered them as minors), there was still a lot of paperwork. Our adoption was scutinized by the judge (our first adoption, he ultimately did all the adoptions). He wanted to know why we wanted to adopt the kids as adults and what would change in our relationship. He wanted to make sure that we weren't adopting to get the kids' money (What money?) and that the kids weren't wanting to be adopted for financial benefits.
I understand that there are many kids who aged out and want to be adopted, but I would tread very carefully. You said you didn't want to wait 3-4 months, but how long did you and your wife date before marrying? Adoption is a life long committment, not just a "for now" relationship. I would want to know the young person for at least a year before making a life long committment to him/her. In some states, the wait time might be even longer than a year.
May I ask why you want to adopt an adult who aged out and not just be their mentor or whatever until you both are sure that adoption is what you both want?
The other option is to foster late teens who have had their tpr already and who are waiting to be adopted. At least in that scenerio, you would have a year or two to be sure adoption is right for all of you.
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lovemy6
We adopted three adults. All three were our foster kids before we adopted them. All three were refused tpr by DCFS, so we had no choice but to wait until they were adults before adopting them.
Although the red tape is lessened (ONLY bc we had fostered them as minors), there was still a lot of paperwork. Our adoption was scutinized by the judge (our first adoption, he ultimately did all the adoptions). He wanted to know why we wanted to adopt the kids as adults and what would change in our relationship. He wanted to make sure that we weren't adopting to get the kids' money (What money?) and that the kids weren't wanting to be adopted for financial benefits.
I understand that there are many kids who aged out and want to be adopted, but I would tread very carefully. You said you didn't want to wait 3-4 months, but how long did you and your wife date before marrying? Adoption is a life long committment, not just a "for now" relationship. I would want to know the young person for at least a year before making a life long committment to him/her. In some states, the wait time might be even longer than a year.
May I ask why you want to adopt an adult who aged out and not just be their mentor or whatever until you both are sure that adoption is what you both want?
The other option is to foster late teens who have had their tpr already and who are waiting to be adopted. At least in that scenerio, you would have a year or two to be sure adoption is right for all of you.
lovemy6
We adopted three adults. All three were our foster kids before we adopted them. All three were refused tpr by DCFS, so we had no choice but to wait until they were adults before adopting them.
Although the red tape is lessened (ONLY bc we had fostered them as minors), there was still a lot of paperwork. Our adoption was scutinized by the judge (our first adoption, he ultimately did all the adoptions). He wanted to know why we wanted to adopt the kids as adults and what would change in our relationship. He wanted to make sure that we weren't adopting to get the kids' money (What money?) and that the kids weren't wanting to be adopted for financial benefits.
I understand that there are many kids who aged out and want to be adopted, but I would tread very carefully. You said you didn't want to wait 3-4 months, but how long did you and your wife date before marrying? Adoption is a life long committment, not just a "for now" relationship. I would want to know the young person for at least a year before making a life long committment to him/her. In some states, the wait time might be even longer than a year.
May I ask why you want to adopt an adult who aged out and not just be their mentor or whatever until you both are sure that adoption is what you both want?
The other option is to foster late teens who have had their tpr already and who are waiting to be adopted. At least in that scenerio, you would have a year or two to be sure adoption is right for all of you.
J-and-M
lovemy6,
WOW!!
Foster mom for 11 years to 26 kids...lovingly adopted five of them, two after waiting 7 years for them to age out of fc, one when she was 23.
Our hat is off to you as well!
When you adopted the aged outs what kind of red tape
did you see. You did say there was a wait time. Was there a lot of paper work as well.
Why did it take ontil she was 23?
Thanks,
J-and-M
lovemy6
In my state the judge can make you get a child-specific adoption homestudy done. Fortunately for us, the judge did not ask for one, bc we had a letter from our sw giving her approval for us to adopt. Otherwise, we would have had to get a child-specific hs.
We had to file an adoption petition with the courts. It included a petition to adopt signed by dh and I and notorized, plus our kids' consents to adopt, notorized. There were tons of papers explaining our relationship, when we met, how long the kids lived with us, reasons we didn't adopt as minors, etc. Everything had to be notorized.
Our oldest dd was 12 when she was placed with us as our fd. She stayed a year, then DCFS moved her and wouldn't allow us contact (we all wanted contact). She called me as soon as she turned 18 and left fc. Dh and I wanted to bring up adoption, but we were afraid of being rejected, so we never asked. In our hearts she was our dd and we were all family. This past Easter, I just felt the Holy Spirit pushing me to ask. I did and she cried, "I never thought anyone would ever want to adopt me." May 6th we finalized our adoption! She had just turned 23.
I really HATE the term "aged outs". I know you're using it to short cut saying "kids who aged out of foster care", but I hope "aged outs" never catches on!
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J-and-M
Thanks peregrinerose,
We have some expierivce in this field but I think the family
wanting to adopt would need to
post a family profile telling the aged outs what they
are willing to take on.
AS TO HOW WOULD YOU KNOW THEY ARE AGED OUTS.
The site should be open to anyone who wants to be adopted
so long as the person is 18 or above.
WHY NOT ADOPT FROM THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM
Adopting from the foster care system would be the
best option for most but for those who just do not
want the 3 to 6 month of red tape could use said site.
Thanks again for your reply.
J-and-M
peregrinerose
You didn't really answer my questions regarding your supports, etc... that is really important. You may have some experience, and that's great. But there is very little like the experience of loving, helping, and living with someone with RAD, with mental illness, with drug issues, with a host of other problems. It's really important to have a solid network of resources set up first.
Your interest in not wanting to wait the '3 to 6 months of red tape' concerns me. That time period is there for a host of good reasons. Rushing adoptions is not a good thing. What is the hurry?
Have you considered being a foster home for teenagers before embarking on your quest to adopt adults? You'll note that those on here that adopted adults had relationships with the adults prior to their aging out. It wasn't just a random stranger that wanted to be adopted. Relationships and connections matter.
I am concerned that you, other adoptive families, or the adults that are adopted end up getting hurt or taken advantage of. I can't say that Children and Youth always get it right, but at least there are some safeguards for both families and kids... with your scenario, where are the safeguards?
I'm going to try to be very clear in this post. I truly hope that your intentions are benign, and that you are just inexperienced in working with people with huge issues.How can both parties be hurt if they are not living together? Adoption means that both parties will have access to very personal identifying information. Identity theft is a huge issue, very common, and very difficult to catch the perpetrator. Both sides now have that opportunity. Second safety issue... how many foster kids have you worked with? Many of them are psychologically or emotionally 'stuck' at earlier ages, so you may be looking at a 19-20+ year old who is emotionally 8 or 9. This means there is a great deal of potential for the adoptive parents to manipulate, control, and hurt the child... and those factors don't show up on a criminal record check.There's a reason that adoption paperwork is so invasive, not only FBI, PA criminal record, and Child Abuse clearance.... but parents have to prove they are financially stable, emotionally stable, and have supports lined up, in order to maximize the success of the adoption. Are you aware that over 50% of teenage adoptions fail? There are many reasons for this, and you are not addressing those reasons. These are people that have been rejected and hurt their entire lives, and the coping mechanisms they may have gained are not always appropriate or healthy. These are not simple cases you can fix with love, they require a great deal of professional help.I live in PA... you say "I am sure that PA has resources". Do a LOT of digging. We looked into adopting a 17.5 year old who needed occupational therapy, RAD therapy, was completely illiterate so needed some form of psychoeducational evaluation and management, possible autism spectrum treatments, and anger management help. Unfortunately, all of the solid resources that were appropriate for him are cut off at 18, regardless of his need for more pediatric-type treatments due to his emotional age. The only reason we didn't adopt him is because we could not find the supports for him to do it right. Living in a very rural area did limit us somewhat, so we hoped that someone in Pittsburgh or Phila, with access to a broader range of services would step in for him. Finding services is not as easy as you might thing. Does SWAN's post-perm services (which has been a true lifesaver for us) step in for adult adoptions? Probably not.I can assure you that intent of the child is irrelavent. Our son, most of the time, has good intent. But that good intent is over ridden by fear. All his good intents still resulted in my husband's face getting punched in. He's assaulted 25+ people and destroyed a lot of property over his years in the system. We're trying to undo 16 years of 'training' and teaching him new coping skills. It's not easy. And all the resources dry up for him in 10 more months. If an adoption will happen, it needs to be 100%.. not pretend. That means the parents will have a LOT of work in front of them (and the adoptees as well) as learning to be a family isn't easy. I have not yet figured out if you have less than honorable motives in this, or if you are just extremely underexperienced in working with people that have very real problems and habits spanning decades. The only reason I replied is because I'm hoping you're the latter and will listen to reason. If you're the former... well.. no amount of reason will matter.
peregrinerose
I can assure you that intent of the child is irrelavent. Our son, most of the time, has good intent.
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Hello, I don't know if this thread is still active. I'm an aged out foster kid who is looking for what you are as well. My email is greyelkkohana@gmail.com if you do see this.
We are looking to adopt aged outs / ex-foster kids!My wife and I both work and need to as it is not agood time to sell our real estate.If he is 18 years or more we do not need to be at homeall day.We hope to adopt younger foster kids later.It would be great if some one could start a site where families and aged outs / ex-fosterkids could put up profiles.Dr. Wes Crenshaw just e-mailed me saying he is thinkingabout how to do this.I e-mail Dr. Wes Crenshaw after reading an article.Just google the title below in " marks."Ex-foster kid feels lost without adult support"I know many ex-foster kids are not looking forfamilies but that may be because they do not have a goodsite to put up a profile.If kids are in the foster care system they oftenhave profile and photos etc but the second theyage out they are gone.Just think about the following.(note that M and I are doing all the paperwork to adopt through the foster care system but it willtake about four month more)But think about the following.People (my wife and I included) are happyto go through a criminal background checkbut many of us do not like to have the stateor county come in our home!!Just because we cannot have kids we have thestate come in our home to see if we are good enoughto have kids!!Any guy out there can have kids without the statechecking on them but my wife and I who are hard workinggo to work on time and are clean need the state to comein our home and ask us a lot of questions.Yes I know the state has it's reasons.SORRY FOR JUST LETTING IT ALL OUT LIKE THIS. LOLI do want to make some points and I thought I needed toset the stage.The points:Point #1Adult adoptions are very easy with very littlepaper work. Just google state by state Adult adoptions law.Point #2I think many more people would adopt if you (ex-foster kid)or your agent could do a criminal background checkon the family looking to adopt you. With Adult adoptionsit is up to you (the person being adopted) to decide howmuch or little to look at the family adopting you.Point #3We need a site where ex-foster kids can put up a profileas well as couple's profiles looking to adopt. Hey you maybe looking for a better mom and dad than we can be. lolI hope we can have some humor about this.:)If you want to help build this web site or you have info that could us let us know.Your thoughts please!! Post or send private message.J-and-M
I am sure there are many people who would love to do this, whether it was a formal adoption or just a close family relationship/support system. I often look at the profiles of young people aging out of the system and wish there were a way to reach out to them whether just to let them know someone cares, or to go further. I cannot imagine anything being more frightening than being dumped out of a very flawed system often carrying a lot of baggage and without the preparation to face adulthood alone and then to have no one to cheer you on, give you a hug during the low times and celebrate your successes and spend milestones and holidays together. Such a site could also offer the chance to connect with each other if you just want someone to talk to.
We are looking to adopt aged outs / ex-foster kids!My wife and I both work and need to as it is not agood time to sell our real estate.If he is 18 years or more we do not need to be at homeall day.We hope to adopt younger foster kids later.It would be great if some one could start a site where families and aged outs / ex-fosterkids could put up profiles.Dr. Wes Crenshaw just e-mailed me saying he is thinkingabout how to do this.I e-mail Dr. Wes Crenshaw after reading an article.Just google the title below in " marks."Ex-foster kid feels lost without adult support"I know many ex-foster kids are not looking forfamilies but that may be because they do not have a goodsite to put up a profile.If kids are in the foster care system they oftenhave profile and photos etc but the second theyage out they are gone.Just think about the following.(note that M and I are doing all the paperwork to adopt through the foster care system but it willtake about four month more)But think about the following.People (my wife and I included) are happyto go through a criminal background checkbut many of us do not like to have the stateor county come in our home!!Just because we cannot have kids we have thestate come in our home to see if we are good enoughto have kids!!Any guy out there can have kids without the statechecking on them but my wife and I who are hard workinggo to work on time and are clean need the state to comein our home and ask us a lot of questions.Yes I know the state has it's reasons.SORRY FOR JUST LETTING IT ALL OUT LIKE THIS. LOLI do want to make some points and I thought I needed toset the stage.The points:Point #1Adult adoptions are very easy with very littlepaper work. Just google state by state Adult adoptions law.Point #2I think many more people would adopt if you (ex-foster kid)or your agent could do a criminal background checkon the family looking to adopt you. With Adult adoptionsit is up to you (the person being adopted) to decide howmuch or little to look at the family adopting you.Point #3We need a site where ex-foster kids can put up a profileas well as couple's profiles looking to adopt. Hey you maybe looking for a better mom and dad than we can be. lolI hope we can have some humor about this.:)If you want to help build this web site or you have info that could us let us know.Your thoughts please!! Post or send private message.J-and-M
Hey i’m just asking if you’re still looking?
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Actually, we did something like this when we lived in Chicago and would take Homeless Gay Youth in off of the streets. We did not even know we were able to adopt back then(and I doubt we were).Now that we have moved, we haven't come across any, though(and ironically we have a huge house now-6 bedrooms for just the two of us)We inquired about the LGBTQ+ homeless shelter in Pittsburgh, but the shot us down and informed us they 'don't go out that far' which is ridiculous as it's youth that are NOT in the system, and are not prisoners. Of course, they get state funding , etc for every bed filled...............it's all about money *sigh*We are certified foster parents, though our annual renewal is coming up and we are so sick to death with dealing with the counties and SWAN I think this might actually be the way to go!