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I was reading an article from here: [URL="http://www.caseyfamilyservices.org/userfiles/voicemagazine/voice-2010-2011-winter.pdf"]Voice[/URL] and read these statistics:
"In 2009, 54 percent of the parents
who adopted a child were previously the
childs foster parent, 32 percent were related
to the child, and only 14 percent were
not related."
Which tells me that for all of us who have been looking for kids to adopt that are not our relatives and not our foster kids (i.e. on websites) our chances are about 14%, not so great odds. With those kind of odds I'd think everyone would agree to be foster parents first. But they don't explain that to us at the introductory meetings.
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UTbrie
I live in Ohio, and I agree with Temporary Mom. I know we live in different county, but this is from my county. In 2007 the rate of RU was 83.7% within 12 months. In 2006 it was 80%.
Ohio has some of the weakest child welfare laws (and for that matter THE worst animal welfare/cruelty laws) in the United States. We have more puppy mills etc than any other state.
RU is HEAVILY pushed here, even when its not the best thing for the child, and budget cuts have been devastating to JFS since Ohio's economy has been one of the hardest hit.
Here are the statitistics for my county through JFS website!
[url]http://jfs.ohio.gov/county/cntypro/pdf07/Summit.pdf[/url]
Its pretty sobering statiistics. Temporary mom, just google "______county foster care statistics" and look for the results with the jfs.ohio.gov heading. I am sure you will find your county's statistics. If not, PM me and I can find it for you :)
ETA: Here is 2008 and 2009's statistics for my county....[url]http://jfs.ohio.gov/county/cntypro/Summit.pdf[/url]
2008 county RU<12 months is 71.2%, state average is 68.5%.................2009 county RU<12 months is 76.4% where state average is 68.5%.
Perhaps TM DOES live in my county! lol! As you can see, RU is pushed in my area way higher than state average. Its gonna less than a few years ago though.
Also, my county only does Foster/Adopt and there is so straight adoption option either. They did away with that a few years ago. So, there is a huge conflict of interest that I saw during training as well. Most people thought they could keep any of the kids that come into custody. They didn't realize parents had a chance to get them back. Made training interesting to say the least. I feel bad for the trainers who have to go over this again and again every training cycle.
Scrapsathome
I was reading an article from here: [URL="http://www.caseyfamilyservices.org/userfiles/voicemagazine/voice-2010-2011-winter.pdf"]Voice[/URL] and read these statistics:
"In 2009, 54 percent of the parents
who adopted a child were previously the
childs foster parent, 32 percent were related
to the child, and only 14 percent were
not related."
Which tells me that for all of us who have been looking for kids to adopt that are not our relatives and not our foster kids (i.e. on websites) our chances are about 14%, not so great odds. With those kind of odds I'd think everyone would agree to be foster parents first. But they don't explain that to us at the introductory meetings.
For the others from Ohio on here, I have to laugh. I was looking at the PCSAO report and then their "report to Congress." So, OHIO is failing in almost every category, which I already knew from that judge I took the class last month, but this agency then puts forth this report asking Congress to change the way they do Title IV-E so that Ohio can continue doing the poor job of managing our foster children as is?? Maybe I am mis-understanding this issue.I know that Judge had told us that there is a HouseBill reform act trying to be passed that the PCSAO is against because it supports enforcement of the ASFA, which of course, based on the stringent timelines, goes against Ohio's general RU at all costs and time policy.
Even with those stats, people are continuing to search for their "forever" children. The stats mean nothing to their mindset. That is the good news--that they are neither getting discouraged, nor letting a child sit waiting. Heard someone say recently (can't think of who now, but hope to remember to credit), "there is no setback stronger, nor more durable than a strong mindset!" Prayers for strength and guidance through this process---to all those who are pursuing adoptions.
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MamaPenny
I also was surprised by the number of people in our MAPP class who pretty much assumed DCF was an adoption agency. They were in for a surprise when they learned "Reunification is always the first goal."
There are many positives with adopting through foster care, however, the time involved and the process of failed reunification and possible reunification is freightening to some who seek adoption. In TV-land, everything is promoted by "results" and people do not see the process behind it. Everything is instantaneous. I would like to have that perfect dinner, that perfect laundry with stains that all come out, and neatly folded or pressed and fading out of sight and into a dresser all in the time that it takes for a commercial by one of those ad agencies to promote whatever it is that they happen to promote. However, all adoptions, whether public or private go through a process. People find this out in those meetings----but it really doesn't register until they actually go through the process. The trainings just orient or familiarize you to the possible behaviors, plights, or diagnoses involved. However, nothing prepares you for the daily God sent work that this involves. It is a true commitment without assurances or certainties. It is the work of love and hope. Most people have problems understanding that the children are in the photolisting looking for exactly those who do understand and accept that life is neither perfect, nor TV instant. If people's perceptions are TV-based, then we are all in trouble as a society. I expect better and think that TV is viewed just for entertainment and promotion. I really want to believe that it is........ Best.
Mama_Mo
I was told that those kids on the photolistings are there because they are "harder to adopt" -meaning that they have exhausted other resources first.
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I think the whole foster, foster to adopt, straight adopt is really messed up in my state. Our old agency knew we wanted to straight adopt and led us to believe that we could do exactly that..then they signed us and pushed fostering to the extreme. We didn't want to foster and tried to pursue photolistings and got our heads ripped off from our caseworker who now only wanted us to foster. We felt left down and decided to bail on that agency because we felt led on. Now we are trying as of last year to begin with a new agency who is as slow as can be and we are at this point almost a year in and still no closer to things. DH and I are ready to give up and in our case, though we want and have always wanted to adopt...are again considering ttc another child...which we can do..but still why does the system need to be SO broken. I mean I know WHY, but still so many people are put into situations that they weren't told about ahead of time....:grr:
Though I want to adopt in the U.S...if things continue on the path they are going, for us it will either be me getting pregnant again..I have 2 bio boys already OR go Internationally.....its just nuts!
Wow! I've had a totally different experience than most of you. We were matched with our sons about two months after being licensed. We did not ask for assistance, but were given it and when we tried to turn it down the social workers pointed out how much more we could do for them with it. This time we've been homestudy ready fir six months and have already said no to a few (out of concern for our children, we want to ensure they can be safe and have enough attention. We've found some great kids on photo listings and also through our social worker's network.When we were fostering (before being matched with our sons) the social workers were increibly easy to deal with. We've had very prompt responses on inquiries, too, even before our homestudy was sent.The social workers keep telling us that we're very realistic. Our county doesn't have a whole lot of kids, we're a fairly small one population wise. In our neighborhood, though, a child was removed based on the school's notification (I talked to the principal about what I saw), and it was done in a timely way. I still see the girl when I volunteer at school and she's doing quite well at her aunt's house.I've been impressed with the professionalism of our county, other counties and agencies in other states. I guess we're very spoiled.
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I think it varies so much from county to county and state to state. Here in Vegas we seem to have a high number of babies that go into foster care and our reunification rates are pretty low. I know at least 10 couples who adopted their very first foster placement, and it was an infant baby they got right from the hospital.
We were foster to adopt- we said no to several placements and then were given our now forever daughters situation- she was 3 weeks old- and in a current foster home that could no longer keep her due to some other family issues.
The birth mom had a history of having her kids taken away and had a very long drug history, and the birthfather was unknown, there was also no family of the birthmother- and we were told that reunification would unlikely. This ended up being true, it was very fast for a foster to adopt situation- TPR was granted when DD was 11 months old, and her adoption was final when she was 14 months old.
I think there are a lot of success stories through the foster to adopt route, but it does vary from situation to situation- although I am yet to see a child be reunified- and I know a lot of foster parents- they are either adopted by the foster parents, or other foster parents (because the current ones do not want to adopt) or they go to a relative.
Yes each state is different...our home state is known to be very difficult to deal with, I was told that by so many agencies that I spoke too. Many of the dozens and dozens of inquiries that I put in for kids I found on photolistings I feel like now may have been dead ends...because as soon as they saw MY state....they immediately didn't want to bother. Which honestly I don't blame them. Our state run programs push us adopting ONLY in our state and expressing an interest to look out of state will get us, the family on the agencies "bad" list. It really is a catch 22....darned either way. I am glad though that other states do have better luck and that there are many POSITIVE stories out there because honestly why adopt at all if there are never any happy endings, so I am so happy to hear good news instead of stories like mine. It is always awesome to hear so many great things from so many people, gives the rest of us on the other side HOPE! So congrats to all of you who HAVE found your forever kids.....:clap: