nonidentifying info, is it the truth or not?

I can only speak for OHIO. I have been doing Adoptee/birthparent searches for many years and the CURRENT non-id-info is the first thing I ask for. Without it, its almost impossible to find a birth mother. if the info is good stuff. If you have no idea what her height, hair color, eye color etc is how do you know when you find her? Also its wonderful to know if the birth mother was single[meaning never married] or had been married and divorced or what her marital status was when the child was born. I hate it when they give a whole bunch of info on the birth father [knowing the birth fathers name is seldom if ever on the birth index.] unless the couple is married. Of course I know OHIO is different than a lot of states in that we have the Birth Index and Supplemental Index that we use. So maybe it wold always be best to specify what state you are referring to when mentioning these things.........it makes those searching think that is the way it is all over the world. Blessings Mackie:grouphug:

Hi, I'm from Mass. The contact I just spoke with at The Dept of Childrens and Families told me that back in the sixties that some of the info that they gave the adoptive parents was "just to make them feel better". They were, and in turn, I was told I was Irish, French and Italian. When in reality not Italian but English. My adoptive family is Italian. In my state you can now get your original birth certificate and information from DCF even though the court records are still sealed. I have learned a whole lot of info in the last few weeks. It's hard to process it all after 42 years. I know my bio parents names and my original name. I just keep staring at the info like it's not real.

Non-identifying info can be correct, full of lies, or anywhere inbetween. As Ravencadwell said above, you have no way of knowing. The agency listed my first son's ndad as being a twin (both males), which was incorrect. Ndad didn't even have a brother. Go figure...Best of luck to you with your new information, pcata8888.Susan

My DH recently "reconnected" (by email) with his birth mom (we all live in MA). Surprisingly, all of the info on the non-ID stuff was true....except that the non-id said that both of his birth mom's parents were dead (and the mom was still alive...maybe his birth mom was too "afraid" to say so? I don't know). I think it is a real crapshoot. Btw, my DH was able to "track down" his birth mom based on the nonID info (this was before access to OBCs) so it may be worth getting? Good luck to everyone. It is soooooo utterly ridiculous to me that adoptees do not have access to their OBCs. Ack.

The non ID is only as good as the info that was given - or manufactured! As a search angel I know that some agencies told the adoptive parents lies about the birth parents. I also know that some non ID is completely true. You don't know until you find the person.

How can you find the person if the non-ID info is bogus? I thought non-ID info was supposed to contain accurate and informative information, such as family history and medical history.

Hi, please go to the first page and read the post about false info. I was surprised to know that they can and probably did alter some of the details. Also, if you have every seen the show "find my family" they have a web site and a discussion blog. There is one blog that is very interesting. Try it...and the show too.

111...as someone on here stated...the info contained in the b-parents non-id file can be a "crapshoot." You dont know how much of it is fact or fiction. I suggest that if you know where your adoption was finalized, go back to that court and get non-id from the court records. There wont be much in those records but the court proceedings will be factual, and some of it may be of some value.It is possible that when the OBC was filed with the state, the non-id info was sent to the state and is in a file in the Dept. of Vital Statistics or whatever Dept. your state uses to track births, deaths, etc. To gain court info, contact the clerk of that court to get the requirements for gaining that info. There is no charge and you dont need an attorney to contact the clerk of the court.Some courts require that a standard court or state form is used, others require that you contact the judge directly through mail. Your state will use whatever procedure has been established.The clerk of the court will not give you legal advice. They will only make you aware of the requirements of the court to gain the information you are seeking.Asking for non-id info is not a guarantee you will get it, but to ask is all we have, and many people have gotten more info than they requested which was a good thing. Unfortunately, some of the information requested is simply not in the records. Additionally, there is no requirement that you use the agency to gain the info you want. You can gain info on your own.I wish you the best.

That disgusts me. I would get the media involved.

When my mother received her non-identifying info. on BF it said that her mother was "slow" and that BM had an older sister that was "slow" but she kept her child. I asked a friend of the family and she said that with adoption records back then that "slow" didn't necessarily mean mentally challenged but could also be interpreted as mental illness. Have any of you experienced this? Does this make sense? Could this explain why my mother and brother have Bi-Polar disorder and why we all have depression?

Anyone deal with Catholic Family Services for Non Id info. Also has anyone dealt with it in the State of NY?

Just went to the Catholic Family Services website and they want $150 for non ID info and $300 for a search.

Mike63 - here is a link to a page with info for all states on where to get non ID info. Doesn't seem right that you would need to pay for it, so try this first.[url=http://www.adopting.org/non_id.html]Where to write for Non-Identifying Information -[/url]

My friend that I helping, there is no way that some of the imformation they gave about his birth family is true. The only thing that matches up with his physical appearance is the hair, eye and skin color. They said his mom was 5'10 and his dad was 5'7. My friend is 6'9. There was no history that they listed that included any tall people. He does not have a medical condition that would make him that tall.

I contacted Catholic Charities to obtain medical information on myself from the time I was born until I was placed with my adoptive parents (5 months). The social worker stated that they had no policy for complying with specific information requests such as what I proposed.She said that it would cost $250 (this was 20 years ago) to extract the non-identifying information and write a 1 to 2 page report based on the information in the file. She also stated that most files from the early 50s didn't include much information. When I suggested that it would be more cost effective to just have a secretary photocopy the file and black out the identifying information, the social worker contradicted herself and said that would take too long because some of the files are so thick.I later found out from my birth grandmother that she had been told I was to be placed in Green Bay, Wisconsin, rather than Milwaukee, where I was born. That was a lie told to assure my birth family that there was little chance of accidental incest in the future. My family moved from Milwaukee when I was 9 years old. A year later my birth mother went to work in the same office where my father had held a supervisory position. Had we remained in Milwaukee, she would almost certainly have been a guest at our house at the annual cookout my dad held for his staff.