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Here is our expierience with the agency we used in Tampa FL for our 1st adoption.
we paid them $8600 by the time it was all over. and they finalized our adoption in 4 mo. (here's the) But, they gave us CRAp the whole time. they tried to bill us for things that had nothing to do with us, like the charges for the family that backed out. Then we found out that they billed and received money from them. The Very same thing they charged us for, they had already been paid by another family. they charged us twice for the same thing, by calling it something else, then when questioned backed down. we actually felt like our daughters finalization was being held hostage, "pay this or we wont finalize". they didnt work well with our primary agency. in the end i refused to speak with them, DH had to take over. but the Real Kicker for me is that they refused to give us an original bcert, with our bmom and bdads names on it. i feel it is Very important for my daughter to have this document. it is Her birth record, Not her adoption record, her birth record, and they refuse to give it to us, our agency or our bmom. They wont even give it to our bmom for a memory of the child she placed for adoption. They are in essence saying her birth never happened. If this piece of paper is important to you and your family, be careful if you deal with them. One other thing they did that I found strange, but doesnҒt really affect me is that they blacked outђ all our bparents info on their med historys. this is an open adoption and they know it. We already have all the info they ґblacked out, so it makes no sense for them to do it. Too Secrecy for my taste, definitely not open adoption!!!!!
and then there is this҅.ok this might be kinda hard to follow, so i hope i wont confuse many.
first a quick background, when we got the call for daughter it was because another family had backed out, one of the reasons was because she is biracial (though there were other reasons too) and bmom had to choose another family (that's us :) anyway, the wife of that family and i 'stumbled upon' each other and have been emailing back and forth. it has been wonderful to get a glimpse into my daughters first few days of life. she has been a great support. so in her last email to me she described what i find Deplorable!! the following is an excerpt.
"We never met bdad, only bmoms boyfriend. Talk about awkwardas we were entering Jacksonville we received a call from the FL social worker explaining that there were questions about her (the babyŒs) race (why the hospital did not disclose this sooner I dont know). Anyway, we were to drive directly to the hospital and act like we knew nothing. I can honestly say that was the hardest thing we ever had to do. Bmoms boyfriend had no idea that he was not the biological father and we did. I felt like we were starring in a really bad movie of the week."
In my opinion this was a Horrible thing for an agency to put possible aparents through. It is completely unacceptable. I DonҒt think they should be in business!!!!
i have since learned of a situation with another family where they were charged $427 Just for asking them to help a bmom who lived in FL. there was no chance of a match, the family just wanted them to help this bmom since she lived in their state and was so far away from the family. (funny most of our bills came in the $400 range. bill after bill was for $400 and some change, they must like that number)
and just yesterday I was contacted by Yet another family this agency stole from, they have filed a complaint with Dept. of Children and Families.
If you would like the name of the agency/attorney I am talking about you can PM me.
i hope i have been of help
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Not sure if you have ever heard of confidentiality but it does exist. That would most likely be the reason they did not give you the original birth certificate. Additionally, Florida doesn't recognize open adoption. Even though your relationship with the bmom was open, agencies and attorneys still have to follow the law. So while agencies can and attorneys can have pbparents requesting semi-open or open adoptions, they are not necessarily enforceable due to the fact they are not recognized in Florida. Usually bparents can get the original birth certificates within a certain amount of time but once the time expires the record is sealed. If it was requested by the bmother after the time period it would have been almost difficult to get.
As for your de-identified records, it all goes back to confidentially. Despite your open relationship, confidentially still exists. If you wanted more information, then perhaps you could have followed up with the birthmom to complete the blacked out information if she so desired.
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Thank you for your snide approach at educating me on the FL laws of adoption. If you had read my post correctly you would have noticed that I Do have the 'blacked out' info from our bmom.
Confidentiality does NOT explain away the HORRID treatment of not only ourselves but also other families in regards to the almighty $$$$. Not to mention the awful mess the SW put the other afamily right in the middle of.
I am curious, why would you bring up an attorney's name while responding to this post, I never mentioned any names in my post. Feel the need to defend someone for whom there is no defense?
Obviously we have differing experiences and views of certain agencies and attorney's, you will not change my mind and I will not change yours. However, I believe it is helpful for All to see both sides so they may better be able to make decisions on such matters. I thank you again for your response.
I would love to know who you used... I am sorry everything that happened. We also adopted in Tampa FL and we used a WONDERFUL Agency. If anyone would like to know the name, just PM me...I just had a person that I met through this site and she got her daughter through the same Agency just this Nov.....
Cathy
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I just want to back up what 4everyyellowsk said above. While the agency may not have handled things correctly in involving the other potential family in the way they did, the birth certificate and blocking of information is the norm. We also have an open adoption with our two birth families--one of whom is from Florida. While we met and spoke to them often before the adoption, when we got the medical records, they were blacked out. This is, no doubt, standard procedure for the agency you used (as it was for the private attorney who handled our adoption). It is way better for the agency to err on the side of caution, as a birth family may, indeed, want their privacy protected. You have no legal right to the original birth certificate, by the way. While it may be a nice keepsake, in the state of Florida, you probably won't get it unless the birth parents give it to you (as did "our" birthparents from NY). However, our adoptions from NY have been final for over a year and we have yet to get our new birth certificates for our twin girls, as NY has a backlog of up to 2 years for getting a birth certificate!
Yael