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Hi! I'm the proud mom of a 10 y.o. biological da. and a 4&1/2 y.o. adopted da. We have been home 19 months with Natasha. She was 3 y. 3 m. when we left Ukraine in 2003. Spent the first year focusing on becoming a family of 4, teaching Natasha English, bonding, the long road to cuddles and trust and identity (you're MY mother?). She is a beautiful healthy bright little girl who has made a wonderful adaptation. She is a joy to our entire large, extended family, friends, community and sister's school. She goes everywhere and does nearly everything with us as a way to increase her awareness, social skills, education, vocabulary and experience of life. We also shared morning playdates with the son of a friend (same age) 2x/wk. This last fall she started 4 y.o. preschool 3x/wk) at a fabulous preschool where our older da. also attended at that age. Natasha had a quiet first semester, followed rules, but did not iniate much in classwhile she learned the territory. This second semester she has felt quite sefe there and has started showing them more of her true spirit :o) Which can be very determined, spirited and downright pushy at times. She is often jealous of others getting to do what she wants to do so she will push them out of the way, hit others and shove them while standing in line. On occassion when she is very excited and unable to contain herself. She will grin with a face-breaking grin and reach out to anyone near-by and pinch them just to share her joy I guess. When given time outs (every day in Jan & Feb) she often argues all the way across the room with the teacher about her being right. At times she teases the other kids and makes jokes that are usually above their heads and the kids will complain to the teachers about Natasha laughing at them. Well, it's time to start making some all important decisions about going on to kindergarten with her age group (will be 5 in May) or going to "young 5's" for a year first. Her pre-school teachers are strongly recommending another year of pre-school or young 5's as they say "she needs more time to play before the pressure of academics". Her eval. show about 80-85% of age appropriate skills for a 4 y.o. academically but their area of concern is the social behavior. She has difficulty transitioning between activities and they often have to go get her to lead her by the hand--she's the same at home---if doing something she enjoys she never wants to stop and move on to anything else like meals or bedtime or errands etc. She requires a lot of external behavioral controls and the teachers would like to see her exhibit more self-control with the hitting and touching others before kindergarten. I could also add thay we had her eval. for PPI (pre-primary impaired) programs in our district last sprinhg and they said she was way too advanced to qualify for their services. Almost everyone who knows her is shocked to think that she wouldn't go into kindergarten with her age group, but most of them see her in small group settings. However, she handles going to the busy children's museum with another family very well, can sit through entire musical concerts and plays, in fact is enthralled by them and often comes home singing the songs her sister has just sung in rehearsal. Just wondering if any of you have made the decision one way or the other to hold back in the beginning or to go ahead with age group and what your hindsight reveals. We still have another eval in our school to go to in May where she will be seen by the teachers from our school and the young 5's classes and they recommend what they think the children are ready for. I am not going to share her pre-school eval with them until after this visitation day so as not to bias them one way or another. We are active in the school and the teachers have witnessed her incredible growth over the past year and a half with joy. They all anticipate seeing her in the fall. Sorry this is so much background, but we wanted you to get some picture of Natasha and give us the benefit of your experience. We have dear friends who adopted 2 girls from Russia and both girls started school immeadiately but then were held back to repeat in grades 4 and this yr one will repeat grade 8 rather than move on to high school. But both these wonderful girls were older when they came here--nearly 5 and 8 &1/2. We don't want to start Natasha too early if she isn't ready and have her labled as a troublemaker or the lowest achiever in her class, but we also see the giant strides she makes each month and don't want to find her bored and way older in young fives. If we go that road she would turn 7 in kindergarten! Help please! Looking to do what's best for Natasha!
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My Sister-in-law held both of her kids out of kindergarten until they were 6. She is a teacher and feels that kids simply need that extra year to grow up. And they were adopted at birth (so that was not a factor in her decision).
My feeling is that it is better to be in an appropriate group that is a year younger than to struggle with kids thier own age. It is better to "hold back" now rather than later in elementary school when they are more aware of what it means. In my daughters third grade class there are kids 7-8 and 9. One started school early (and is 7) a bunch started at the regular time (8) and a few started late (9). The age difference is nothing really.
In fact, one of the 9 year olds is adopted from Samoulia (spell) when she was 4 or 5. She fits in fine with the kids one year younger.
Another thought is that a girl in my son's kindergarten class did Kindergarten twice. they had considered not starting her (like you are) but went ahead and decided to let her do Kindergarten again. "Academically" she was fine, socially she needed another year. Again, she fits in great with the "younger" group of kids.
So, if you think it is best for your daughter to go to the "young 5's" don't worry about the age!
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I also agree that waiting a year (if suggested) is probably wise. You cant make up this time and its ALOT easier on her socially to be held back now than later. In my boys class there are TWO children that were held back for kindergarten and both of them are teachers children ...and both feel strongly that holding back (for those emotional reasons) was the right thing to do. Now that the kids are in 3rd or 4th grade ... noone notices or cares.
And my point of view (as a mom of older adopted kids-ages 3 and 4) is that its another year home with mom at the end of high school :).
Jen
HI I concur with the opinions you've already received... I have a good friend who did not hold her son back (end of August bday) and although he's doing fine, she second guesses it each year and worries about it. It just would have been simpler to have held him back and not had the worries.
Good l uck
I think holding her back would be a good call. Our daughter was 4 when we adopted her a year ago, and we had decided to keep her back a year in pre K. We are actually lucky in that she missed the age cutoff anyway. She is going to stat kindergarten on time, but she is going to be 6 in October.
You never know how she'll grow and develop between now and the start of the new school year. 6 months is a big chunk of time for a 5 year old and she just might improve her social skills a lot in that time.
My 5 year old is a very young 5 (late July birthday), so I was worried how he would do in kindergarten because last summer, he was barely recognizing letters and couldn't write his name very well etc. Considered holding him back to give him more time to cover the basics.
What I ended up doing was registering him for kindergarten anyway and waiting til a month before the start of the school year to make the decision. And in that time, he made enough progress to show that he was ready.
I talked to the director of the preschool and was able to reserve his spot in the program as long as I made a decision by the deadline. (There's usually always kids waiting to fill the spots)
You might consider keeping both options open & available until it's closer to the new school year because in my mind it might be too early to make the decision.
Crick
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I have about 5 best of friend that we all went
to high school together some of us are almost
a year apart in age due to whose parents sent them
early and whose parents sent them late. It has never ever been a problem in any of our friendships.
But just think what a year longer will be like
for your daughter if she gets to be with you.
At school they expect the kids to do so much these
days. Keep her home with extra love. Once
she is gone off to school she is gone.
I have 5 year old bio kids, they turned 5 in Dec. I had them in private school which would allow them start Kindergarden at 4 if they felt they were ready. I had intended to begin them, then the school moved and we transferred to a new school which did not do that. Well, I was a little disappointed, but in the end I am glad it worked out this way. Academically, my kids were ready, and socially they would probably be okay, BUT, that said, this year they had another year of growing up, another year of playing, having fun, and less responsibility. NOw they will be somewhat older than some of their classmates, BUT, they will be bigger, stronger, and more ready. I think its the best thing, why rush to grow up? This is a personal decision to be based on your child of course, but for us, it worked out great!
Best of luck!
Sue :o
Prior going into ministry, I was a kinder. teacher full time for many years. I will tell you that I could then, and still can now tell what children will have a harder time in kinder, based only on their social behavior. EVEN if your little one is doing great and performing at her level...if you are seeing questionable things with behavior and social, I would strongly recommend holding her for one year. The social part is the primary reason for pre-Kinder. I would tell you to give her the "gift of a year" now, rather than her struggling later (ie High School, etc.). Many, many blessings to you and your decision. -DHopkins
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My kids are older now, but I can see looking back on kindergarten that the kids who were poorly behaved - shoving, hitting, etc. - were generally not liked by the other kids. They had trouble making and keeping friends and were known to most parents as "kids to avoid." These labels followed them for years if they stayed in the same school, even when these children learned to regulate their behavior, as they pretty much all did. It is something to consider. If you can keep your options open by enrolling her in both programs, you can see how she is in the fall. The good news is that by later elementary school pretty much all the kids had learned to behave well in class.