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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hi, this is my first time posting in a message board of add/adhd. I just found this place and have been reading a lot. [/font][font=Arial](Not sure where to start) [/font][font=Arial]My daughter may have ADD her doc says? She is 8 years old and only this school year she has been having problems. It started out with. Out of the blue one day (actually Sept of last year) she was rolling her eyes up in her head like every second. That lasted a few weeks and was very scary. Then it calmed down some and she was tighten her lips together, after that she was holding her belly in and out, and then she was constantly playing with her ear ring. She says she can not stop doing them and like with the eye thing, she will say her eyes sting is she doesn't do it. These are the tics she has been having in the past 7 months on and off. They all get worst when she is watching TV, bored, or nervous. [/font][font=Arial]Other problems folling that are not finishing her work on time in school, slow at witting, zoning out, and being forgetful.[/font]I helped out in her classroom for the school year last year in the 1st grade and know she was not having these problems in school then. It is like it just all happened one day.[font=Arial]Let me say she is not hyper, very sweet, a little shy, and also VERY bright. She has always been ahead of her class. In fact her Kindergarton teacher wanted to put her in the gifted class for 1st grade. She is in the highest reading group at school now. [/font][font=Arial] She doesn't have problems making friends and is always caring, easy going, and a trusting friend/daughter. [/font]In the past she was always so happy (always had a smile on her face) use to help ME remember things, and just so great in every way. Her and I have always had a really close relationship.[font=Arial]She has had a EEG, and a MRI and both have came back normal. She has seen a neurologist and she thinks she has ADD also with TICS. We talked some of meds but I don't really want to go that route. She is 8 yrs old and 42 lbs, VERY tin and tall for her age. She has always been a picky eater and I know if she goes on the meds that she will not eat a thing and I am scared.[/font][font=Arial]We go back to see her neurologist in NOV for the beginning of 3rd grade. We are going to see how she is then and if it is effecting her school work then we may try the meds.[/font][font=Arial]Does this sound like she has ADD? Once again, she is not hyper but does get easier distracted and not finishing her work on time. Also, she gets car sick all the time now. She use to finish a chapter book in the car on short roads trips in 1 hour, be able to play with other things, write, and even her gameboy, now she can't even pick up a book without feeling sick in the car. She gets bored really easy now too.[/font][font=Arial]What I am more worred about are the tics she is having. This week they have gotten worst...Do most children with ADD/ADHD have tics? [/font][font=Arial]Both her doc and neurologists do not think it is tourettes but says she has the "gene". She has never had a vocal tic just those ones I mentioned.[/font][font=Arial]Any help would be great. Advice, thoughts, stories, make me feel better's, etc.....[/font][font=Arial]Thanks in advance....[/font]
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Hey there My name is Kyle, I'm 21, and I've been a diagnosed ADD kid since as far back as I can remember (I think I was diagnosed about age 5? Not sure). Part of what your daughter has sounds identical to my problems. I can't deal with school work, not in a timely manner, I am extremely forgetful, and when my ear was pierced I could never stop playing with the earring. Teachers have always said I have extremely high potential, and I've always been the most accelerated reader of anyone in my age group. I will also add, I've never been all that hyper unless I'm extremely excited about something like an upcoming event. Please feel free to email me at kyle.h.green@gmail.com and I would be more than happy to talk to you as best I can to answer all your questions about ADD. If you'd like, we could set up a phone call where I could speak with you about your daughter. Love to hear from ya and good luck with everything! ~ Kyle
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Yes, chldren with ADD can also have Tics, which is why, in your case, stimulant medication is not a good idea as stimulants can make tics worse...Strattera or Welbutrin are better choices, not having the potential to cause or make worse a tic. You might want to have her evaluated by a child psychologist, or, better, a therapist who has experience treating children who have had a history of early chronic maltreatment...to assess in a more detailed manner what may be at the root of the problem, rather than attempting to make a diagnosis based on superfical and surface behaviors. regards
Do tics just "show up"? My 9 year old son sounds ALOT like the children described above. Some have suspected he is ADHD but we dont feel he really is as he can concentrate on things he WANTS to concentrate on - but is easily distracted in school, defiant (more than the normal child) and constantly is orally stimulating himself (chewing on whatever he can find.). In the last three months he has started bulging his eyes. Thats the only way I can describe it ... every few seconds he raises his eyesbrows and bulges his eyes out. He says he isnt doing it on purpose, and doesnt seem to be able to stop it. Is that a tic?
Jen.
Dear Jen, Yes, tics can appear and dissapear, so what you describe may be a tic. I think L123's advice needs to be explained as it is not true that ADD medicine will worsen a tic. Stimulant meds will, but not Welbutrin or Strattera. so, if your child has a tic or a history of relatives with tics the physician will generally not prescribe Concerta, Ritalin, Clonadine, etc. regards
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Thank you for replying. That means a lot. She was doing good for a couple of months with her tics but now she is doing the eye thing a lot. Where she kinda raises her eye brows up. It's been a week and she does a couple a minute. I wish she could replace this with another one since it is noticeable but I wouldn't ask her to try and do that because I don't want her thinking about it more and worrying. Hopefully they will get better soon. I have been making sure she is eating lots of fruit and less junk. She was never a big Junk eater though.I keep trying to go back and ask myself how this happened? 4 months before her tics (followed by forgetfulness and easily distracted) she did have scarlet fever. Her DOC said strap throat can bring this on and make it worse. I am wondering if she has always had this but it just now came out once she got sick? Last year at this time she had No TICS or ADD symptoms. She finished her work on time, was a teachers helper for the other students, and never got easier distracted. I don't get it. She has always been some what nervous and shy and I know tics have to do with nerves maybe that is why she is having them? Maybe I should look into relaxing type help?I am sure I will be around here now, I am glad I found this place too!
Hello,
Your situation sounds alot like my daughter, although I have not thought to look for anything that could be considered a tic. My daughter is also 8 years old, just 46 lbs,cheerful, social, and was on the A honor roll all year...till the final quarter.
All of a sudden she was getting at least 2 negitive check marks every day, once she got 3 (and a detention!). Her grades slipped and she feel to B status. Alot of her papers were suddenly showing simple, careless errors and her concentration was gone at times. I had a conference with her teacher, but some of that was because I also work at the school and saw some treatment of my child that made me question if the teacher was treating her harsher because she was noting my childs sudden lapse in work & behavior and felt it was "willful". I agreed something was wrong, but did not feel that this teacher handled things right. We are currently working with our Dr. & a nutritionist to find answers to what is going on with our daughter. I am very concerned about jumping to quickly on a diagnosis of ADD or ADHD. What if this is wrong and then she has a lifetime of trying to get out from under this label? I am also worried that a false label would have a greater negative effect her remaining school years, perhaps worse than if she actually does have ADD. We are looking into all options for this change before we "rule in" ADD or ADHD. It seems like the school was all to anxious for us just to get "diagnosed" , although they have already decided that is what her problem is, and for her to get it "under control" (medicated). I was floored with how quick they wanted us to jump on this band wagon. They seemed shocked that we are taking a more investigative approuch.
I would love to talk to you more about our situations & share support if needed.