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I have started this thread as I have suffered with depression for many years which hasn't been helped by people telling me to "get over it", there are other people with "worse problems than mine and they deal it them", and I'm an "intelligent person so should be able to work through my problems" to quote a few comments. For all those who suffer with depression we all know it isn't as easy as that and we need to be taken seriously about how we feel. On top of that there is the social stigma attached to it so people, in general, need to be educated that depression isn't something to be ashamed off.
Ever since I was in my teens I suffered with depression but until now it hasn't been dealt with appropiately. As I was growing up my parents always made me feel so inadequate as I was always compared to my "perfect" older sister who could do no wrong and I could do no right. She was always the "intelligent", I was "stupid" and I was always put down for never being good enough in any way in their eyes. My sister made my life a misery over the years as well by causing trouble which included telling lies about me that my parents believed so I was constantly being told I was a liar. Subsequently I grew up with low self esteem and little confidence which has been hard to live with. The first time I knew I had a problem was when I was about 15 years old and I was suicidal but I got through it somehow. My parents thought I was just attention seeking by being so moody but they arranged counselling which I wasn't prepared for as I hadn't accepted that I did suffer with depression and I felt that I was being stupid feeling the way I did. The counselling amounted to one session as I came across as just being a bit low so I had a standard pep talk. After that I withdrew into myself and became very good at putting on an act for others so they thought I was happy generally.
At 19 I became pregnant just before splitting up from an emotionally bad (for me) relationship but I wanted my baby despite that but once my parents knew I was pregnant they were determined my child would be adopted. Despite knowing how I felt my parents arranged everything even though they knew I could emotionally and financially look after my baby .... I was working. This wasn't discussed at all as that's the way my parents wanted it and they virtually put the fear of God into me not to discuss the situation with anybody else. The first time I saw a case worker was a day or two after I had my son so I was honest about how I felt. Over the next few weeks I stood my ground with her and she asked me not to rush into any decisions but promised to put a halt to the adoption and that she would support my decision. Unfortunately she didn't and told my parents everything I had told her. My parents then started putting on the emotional pressure to get me to agree to the adoption. I was told that I couldn't look after myself let alone a baby yet I was trusted to babysit my niece who was only a young baby herself at the time. That I couldn't afford to bring up a child, I was working and could afford to, that my parents would make sure I didn't have accommodation so I couldn't bring up a baby on the streets nor would I be able to hold down my job. I wouldn't be able to afford childcare, again this wasn't true plus more pressure on top including that they would make sure I didn't get any form of support. I was completely brainwashed by this time by my parents that I believed them but at 6 weeks after my son's birth the case worker told me it was too late and that I couldn't put a stop to the adoption. This year I found out I had been lied to and I could have stopped the adoption. After this my son was talked about at all and my way of coping was to act as if nothing had happened. I never forgot my son but for 23 years on the surface it was as if he had never existed.
Life carried on for me and I was good at putting on an act of being happy. However life did get a bit much for me at times as every time either of my parents were ill I always got the blame although I have never understood why. My mother suffers with asthma and diabetes so every time she has been in hospital I've "put her there" :confused: and my father's health has got worse over the years as well. Each time he has been in hospital again it has been my fault for being such a terrible daughter. I have led a very ordinary life and never been in any sort of trouble but my parents have constantly made me out to be a terrible person.
A few times over the years I had counselling but it didn't do me much good as I couldn't really open up about how I felt about my parents. I never brought up about my son being adopted as I felt so ashamed of allowing this to happen nor could I forgive my parents for what the did to me :o . All I could do was talk about surface problems so once I worked through those I stopped the counselling.
About ten years ago and seven years ago I got to the point of being suicidal again. The first time I took a load of medication, didn't say anything but as it turned out I didn't take enough to do any damage. The second time my husband walked in on me and I ended up spending the night in hospital as I had taken enough to do damage but fortunately I was sick so I was very lucky.
Last year after I found my son I suddenly had to deal with how I felt about him being adopted. Fortunately for me he did have an overwhelming desire to have me in his life and he had been searching for me for 5 years. Our reunion wasn't without it's problems which we have muddled our way through but some of the problems had been caused by my family. I fell out with my family in early 1999 due to my sister telling lies about me again which as usual my parents believed. Later that year my son started searching for me when he turned 18 and found my family quite quickly but honestly told him they didn't know where I was as I had moved. Late 2001 I contacted my parents by letter and let them know why I hadn't been in touch and was prepared to have contact with them as I did love them but I didn't want any contact with my sister. Since then I have had contact with them by letter only but they didn't tell me they had contact with my son or tell him they knew where I was. My sister had also told him lies and half truths about me so I was shocked he wanted to know me. He had been convinced that I didn't want to know him and that my family were covering for me so it must have been a shock to him to find out this wasn't true. We do have a good reunion now and I am thankful for that.
The past year has been hard though as I have had to confront how I feel about my family as well as the adoption. At first the adoption issues took over and I had several counselling sessions starting in December 2004. Unfortunately I didn't benefit from the sessions as they were passive so I found myself chatting about anything except what was bothering me. My counsellor thought I was so well adjusted so there wasn't much point in carrying on even though I told her I needed agressive counselling to get me talking. I don't know how long I would have carried on if I hadn't been a member of the forums or another online group for mothers who relinquished who didn't have any more children. At least I have had support and it has helped me to realize I do need proper help.
About a month ago I started having problems sleeping and eating so I have started losing weight plus I realized I was feeling very depressed. I knew I had a real problem when I started feeling suicidal again so told my husband how I felt but I knew I wouldn't actually commit suicide or try to. Last week I saw a doctor and found the courage to be honest with him about my issues including feeling suicidal. He prescribed medication which is beginning to work and he is arranging appropiate counselling. I feel very relieved to be taken seriously and to be treated as a normal person who is going through a bad emotional time :) .
Pip :)
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Pip,Hope that you had a wonderful Christmas and that you will have a wonderful New Year!Was just reading the beginning of this thread and I can so relate to how your parents treated you as that is how I was treated by my amom. I do not have depression. Can tell you that there were thoughts of suicide growing up because of the situation at the time. I was never good enough. Would never amount to anything. The only reason a man would be interested in me was just for sex because I didn't have anything to offer him. She would tell me that if something happened to her, the rest of the family would come like vultures and take everything that I had from me and put me in an institution. She would tell me that they were jealous because I was adopted and not blood related but I had things that they felt should be theirs. Sorry to go into this as this is your thread, but just wanted to let you know that I most assuredly understand what you went through. It is a wonder that you came out of it all as good as you did. It is so wonderful that you have your son back and your sanity. You will get through your depression. We are all here for you. You are an inspiration to us all. Janet
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Janet,
You're more than welcome to share on this thread as that's why I started it. Sometimes I wonder why our mothers treat/treated us the way they do/did. It doesn't matter if we are brought up by our bio parents or adoptive parents as I take the view they chose to have us ... we didn't ask to be born and kept or adopted. It just infuriates me the way think they think it is acceptable to treat us like this and we are ones with the problem. I chose to put physical distance between myself and my parents and sister as they will never accept that they have hurt me. In 2001 I made my peace as much as I could with my parents so at least I have a clear conscious on that matter. It still hurts at times but I have become a stronger person at the end of the day.
Pip :flower:
Shef,
The counsellor I will be seeing is through my doctor's surgery ... her base is the hospital but she will see me at the doctor's surgery so yes it is through the NHS. Although some of my issues are adoption related my bouts of depression started in my early teens so those related issues also need to be worked through as well.
Pip :flower:
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ok...was just wondering as it does seem a long time to be waiting.....i thought that surgeries only can give you about 6 weeks short term counselling..i think thats what they call it.....i hope you get longer than that....i was going to look up some counsellors details for you if it was not NHS, cos I know that Norcap have a list of them in differnt areas......there is none in my area though......
hope you didnt mind me asking....I wasnt being rude or anything, just wanting to help you if I could.
shef
Shef,
I never mind you asking anything :) . Originally I rang up Norcap about counselling but the person they referred me to lives in Leeds which is about 90 miles away from me. She charges 50 an hour so that along side the cost of travelling to and from her put me off. I then contacted the local social services who referred me to After Adoption as they deal with adoption counselling on behalf of the ss. That didn't cost me anything and the counsellor came to my home. She was a lovely lady but she is used to passive counselling so that didn't help at all. I found myself talking about anything except what was bothering me so she thought I didn't need any help. She admitted to getting more from me than the other way round as I showed her what sites I go on for support.
When I saw my doctor last year I was completely honest with him so he arranged for counselling which has taken a long time coming. I will be interested to find out if I will be limited to 6 weeks.
Pip
It's been almost a month since I last posted here so that is definitely a good sign. I still have my bad days but that is to be expected. The past week has been a good test for my progress as I moved the weekend before last. It has been stressful yet I have survived without getting too stressed out. My dh has been the one who has been tearing his hair out with problems and shouting when things have gone wrong. I have got uptight at times yet I have coped quite well. Still no counselling but my medical records need to be forwarded to my new doctor so I'm not too worried atm.
Pip :flower:
[font=Comic Sans MS]Glad that you are doing better. Atleast the move wasn't too stressful on you.[/font][font=Comic Sans MS]I was doing okay for awhile but have since fallen back into the slump and trying my hardest to get out of it. I am trying to get in to see my doctor to change the antidepressant and that is taking awhile. I wish my counselor could prescribe them ....[/font]
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Got over another bad time without it causing me to sink back into deep depression. I have posted elsewhere about this so wont go into detail about it. Last week my son and I had a major falling out as he is angry about issues which includes being angry with me. The final straw for me was when he "publically" said some unpleasant things on the forums. He wants space for the foreseeable future whereas I no longer want any contact whatsoever. I was very upset at the time but have been able to work through this without getting depressed about it...I'm just sad that it has come to this.
Pip :wings:
Well I am finally getting on top of how I've been feeling recently which includes being meds free :cheer: . I have dealt with the major fall out with my son, over gastric flu for a couple of weeks which was bad and coping with not taking the anti depressants. It hasn't been easy but I have been determined not to let anything get me down. Once I got over my illness dealing with the withdrawal symptons from not taking my meds has been easy. My doctor has been great and is pleased for me although she was concerned that I came off the meds so quickly. However as she has seen me fairly regularly she is fine about it know.
Pip :wings:
Wow, when I was reading your story, it almost sounded like we were in the same family, with the big sister thing except I had a big brother that was my nightmare. We were both adopted, he was 4 years older than me, my adopted parents worshipped him and I was the stupid one. That word has haunted me all my life, and I am 48 yrs. old.
I also recovered from depression, because of post dramatic stressed caused by my adopted parents 10 years ago, but my therapist told me I had suffered from it for years and what happened in 1996 was the straw that broke the camels back.
I had been molested by my adopted brother, had held that in and in 1996, I was 38 at the time, my parents and I got into an arguement and when I finally stud up for myself and told them how I felt, they proceeded to beat me up. That was the straw that broke the camels back. Through a few years of therapy and a wonderful husband and my daughters, I have been able separate the good from the ugly. As far as my parents I never spoked to them again.
I have tried to find my b-mom, but I was born North Carolina and the info is vague, so I am not sure that will ever happen.
I have gone through deep depression about my whole life, and the therapy worked wonders. I went from not ever wanting to leave my house, let alone get out of bed, it was about 5 years before I could feel alive inside. Now, I work for a great company and great people.
My advice to you, is stay with your therapy, if one therapist doesn't work try another until you find one you feel confortable with.
Through my therapy I found that my parents were very messed up and it wasn't me at all. My dad has died, and my mom is still alive and just her voice would scare me to death so I plan on never being near her again and that suits me just fine. In my heart I never had a mother and GOD is my father.
I still cry to myself and have moments from the past, but for the most part I am OK!!!!!!!!!!!! There will always be a hole in my heart, but now I can deal with it much better, and it is not my fault.
Hang in there and never, never, never give up on yourself
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:flower: Thank you so so much for understanding, like many of us adoptees, we feel like know one out there really cares how we feel. The first words are get over it and live your life, but there are so many things in life that remind us or brings in the feelings that one is trying to forget, so I think it is impossible to forget, it is learning how to deal with the feelings in a positive way. The hole in our hearts was placed there the minute we were taken from our mothers, others making life decisions without thinking how it will affect a child in the long run. I do believe for the most part children do have a happy life with their adopted families, but for those that don't it is double jeapordy. For me I took it out on myself, thinking that I was so different I was not good enough to love.
:cheer: My first daughter was born on my 19 birthday, and even though it was a unbelieveable experience and I love her with all of my heart. I have struggled every year to be excited and not to get swallowed up in my sorrows of be taken away from my mother on that day.
So for everyone out there that shares similar feelings of abandonment. You are not alone, there are many of us out here. :wings: