Logic and Lack Thereof

Logic and boys? You must be kidding, LOL. I have three sons and two are biological and none of them seem to get logic. But I found one trick, my 14 year old, whom I have been telling all his life that drinking soda's was not good for him and limiting them to his great protests, etc. Well, now his coach at school tells him that carbonated drinks are bad for you and he stops drinking them!!!!! I am thinking of calling the coach and getting him to tell the boys about picking up dirty clothes and cleaning their rooms and throwing away trash. I have lots for the coach to tell them. Just last night my son was talking to dh and I and he went to get a band aid for his thumb, as he is in the middle of talking to us, he tosses the wrapper on the floor. Dh said, wonderful, now that you have demonstrated that gravity still works, you can throw that away. Ds looked confused and then said, OH and picked it up and put it in his pocket. (so it will end up in the laundry). Even dh seems to have some issues with logic at times, like decided to clean out the car when we are late to go somewhere. So it must just be a male thing that they partially grow out of by, oh maybe thirty.

Debbie...I *could* have lied, but then Momraine couldn't have followed up so well! LOL! Do you want me to tell you about a 10 year old girl's behavior or should I save that til after you've consumed wine?;)

Crick, there is not enough wine in the world for me to be ready to hear about 10-year-old girls! The thought of Lauren at 10 (or 12, or 14, or anything between about 9 and 23) makes me light-headed! With three kids and DH, my 4 year old is by far the worst when it comes to logic. Especially related to lying. While I was typing that earlier, he grabbed a piece of paper out of Lauren's hands right in front of me. When I asked 'why' he took the piece of paper from her instead of waiting for me to hand him his own piece, he replied that he didn't take the paper from her! What? I watched you do it!! But you guys do make a great point about DH and my older son are not exactly logic genuises themselves! Oh my, oh my, oh my. It really doesn't get better does it?! (Though at least they don't lie to me about the ilogical things they do! They don't even see the lack of logic!)

That famous "WHY?" gets us all into trouble...I try so hard not to ask that but then again, some of the answers I get are so funny, sometimes it's worth it. My favorite logical answer this week to the question of "What in the world made you pour an entire bottle of shampoo into the bath?" (dummy me should not ask this) "We wanted to be extra extra clean and you always say to use MORE soap Mom!" them boys...I tell you!;)

You are so right. I just don't seem to learn. When the words 'why on earth did you do that?' come out of my mouth I don't know why I expect any kind of reasonable answer. If they were reasonable they wouldn't have done whatever it was in the first place! Got to love the more soap answer though! That one is great! (Though I really hope that it was cheap shampoo!)

I have 9 and 11 year old daughters - THOSE I can tell you about! This lack of logic and sensible communication could very well be the end of me. My father is an engineer, my husband is an engineer, I did technical writing for a few years, and I interpret for ASL. Logical thinking and clear communication are the core of my being. Now I think perhaps WINE may become the core of my being! OK - all kidding aside - while I am sorry that I'm not the only one, I am thrilled in that I'm not alone. When the boys do completely ludicrous things we don't bother asking why they did it. We just explain why it was not a wise decision, and then give them ideas on how to wisely manage the situation the next time. They are forever walking around the house saying, (phonetically speaking) "Mohndre Vibrawa!" Yes, I pinkie-swear - if I ever get this figured out, I will certainly share the antedote!

Jacqueline...you better ease her into it.;) Mine is 10 going on 20...yours? LOL!

I don't even want to think about my daughter as a pre-teen! (Fingers in my ears chanting 'I can't heaaaar you!') Illogical 4 year old boys who lie to me drive me a little batty (ok, a lot,) but the thought of my daughter at age 9 or 11 scares me to death! My 9 year old son is really ok (so far) but I think my daughter at 9 is going to be a totally different situation! :) She is currently 4 going on 14 and, some days way to smart for her own good. And definetly too smart for me! I am with you though. My husband is an engineer, my mother has her masters degree in finance, my step father is an architect, and I have a degree in journalism. All pretty straight forward, logical areas. And then I had children. Wine does help though! ;)

How funny, My dh is an engineer too. That doesn't mean that everything he does is logical. LOLMy dd is 8 and thinks she is 16, for the last three birthdays she has asked for the same thing, a credit card and a cell phone. She begs for those two things constantly. Of course now she adds, "not a toy phone and not one with lip gloss in it". Poor kid turns 9 in August and still won't get what she wants, LOL. Well, we have thought about getting her a prepaid phone, but certainly no credit card!

So true! That logical, engineer mind only extends so far. And not to - If there is a basket of clean, folded clothes at the bottom of the stairs, essentially blocking your way, you should carry it upstairs. NOT JUST STEP OVER IT ON YOUR WAY UP! Or - If the dishwasher if full of clean dishes, EMPTY IT! DON'T JUST STACK YOUR DIRTY DISHES IN THE SINK! :hissy: (Ok. I feel better now. ;) )

Hi Everyone,,It has been a while since I have posted anything,Howevever I do come in quite often,.My Babes have been home 1 year and a Half and as I just wrote that ,I still cannot believe where the time has gone.I can relate with some of the childrens ways of logic that I have read. Whenever one of my kids does something that I think is way out there ,and I inquire as to why he/she had done that,,I actually cannot wait to hear the reasoning..For Example Just yesterday I was doing my last of 6 loads of laundry, as I was removing clothese from the Washer,,I pull out this plastic baggy that contained over 20 pencil lead tips,,( You read it right ) So I had to determine which child it came from,,the only pair of jeans in the washer was from my oldest daughter..,so after she had come home from school I had asked her what this was,,she looked at me and said I Dont Know Mom,,what is that??,,I decided her reaction/answer to my question seemed believable and I decided to call my son downstairs,,,,and asked him,,,His answer was that he wanted to make a Robot out of the pencil lead,and that he has been collecting them for a couple of days..I didnt really want to question him too much because I didnt want him to think that being creative in his thinking was a bad thing,I did however explain to him that this is poison and that I really disnt want him to collect anymore pencil tips,,,,What he said next led me to have a glass of wine with Dinner last night,,something I never do,,,,He said Ok Mom I will not collect anymore pencil tips,,and asked me if it would be ok to save his chewed gum, to build this really big tunnel for his racetrack set!!!!!There is never a Dull day in my house!!!!I chalk this all up to my children growing ,, Driving Mom crazy ,and making memories that they can share in thier adulthood!

I love it! The gum is ever better than the pencil tips! That is one creative boy you have there!

Yusen - Your son has a great, creative mind! Perhaps he could come up with a project for gum wrappers - though he might need his gum to stick them together:) By the way, pencil lead is really graphite so it isn't poisonous (learned that from our school nurse when one of my students broke the lead off in his hand). Hoping for an update and recent photos!

I don't have boys - but I can tell you the girls are right up there with them. Our three girls now 7, 8, and 10, have been home almost 8 months now and are doing really well. They our 7 year old and 8 year old are already caught up with their classmates, and the 2nd grader is reading and passing english comprehension with her class. Our 4th grader is still about 1.5 grades behind reading but is getting better and better. She was a little resistent to making the transition to english at first, and of course she had the most to re learn in English. But they are still testing testing testing (at least the 2nd and 4th grader). My main pet pevees that are currently driving me and my husband crazy:[LIST][*] Lying (2nd and 4th grader and usually about something trivial)[*] "Why?" following every single thing you ask them to do.[*]Repeating myself over and over and over[*]The repeated discussion about cleaning up after playing - there is always an argument between the girls about who made the mess and who is picking up what (in their illogical minds they should only pick up what they touched last) etc. This drives me nuts and I have explained over and over that they need to help each other out and all clean up. Plus when mommy comes in to clean up it is usually with a garbage bag in tow to make donations of what I find on the floor.[*]Whining (although we have just about eliminated this with the exception of the 7 year old)[/LIST]I guess the good news is these things are the same ways kids are driving parents crazy everywhere.

With the exception of the ages, you could have been describing my house! Normal. But OHHHHHH so frustrating!! Hang in there. We're all right there with you! :)