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Hello, I am writing for my fiancee who had a daughter born in 1980 that was adopted out. The other day we received an email out of the blue from a person who stated she was looking for her birth parents and believed he was her birth father. She gave us her name and a little information about the adoption. There has been communication back and forth but i am starting to have my doubts that this is a legitimate contact. She did send some pictures and I contacted the birth mother and we talked on the phone and discussed it and the pictures she sent we couldn't see too much resemblance. Also the pictures were pretty vague and only 1 picture of her and most of her sons and her husband. She had asked alot of questions and at 1st we didnt question the contact we answered some questions and then asked her some. Im finding tho the conversation is really one sided. She never seems to answer my questions. She asked one time if she could call and i gave her my number and then she sends me a email asking if we can talk on instant messenger. I said ok and sent her my information. Im trying to be very supportive for my fiancee but because so much time go's between communication and the communication seems to very limited on her side Im not sure what to make of it. I have tried searching for the name she gave me but I cant seem to find anything.
I would hate so much to think that someone would take public information that my fiancee posted to try and find his daughter to take advantage of a situation but im getting a nagging feeling about this. And I really dont know how to even handle my fiancee if we find out it wasnt legitimate, he is really excited about this. Does anyone know or experienced anything like this? Any advice would be helpful:confused:
no experience here but know that intuition can be a powerful thing! I so hope it isnt false for all ur sakes, too cruel. hope things do work out and tread carefully!!!
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I want to post some response publicly and not just talk to you via private message, so that other people can know what to do in this situation, too. You have given a very detailed description of who you are looking for, on a public search wall. If the only information they are telling you is from what you posted, that is a red flag! If they only want to talk via messenger, not on the phone that is a red flag. DO NOT under ANY circumstances click on any link they put in a messenger. Oh, this is my son's youtube video, watch it... It can be a malicious virus that you just allowed to be installed on your computer that will give them everything you type like your passwords to banks, e-mails, list of friends you talk to, anything. Spyware is VERY powerful stuff and there are MANY programs, even BIG NAME virus programs that will not find them. If they tell you their name is Patricia, and the e-mail is coming and saying Heather as the outgoing address, RED FLAG! If the parents are deceased, find out her maiden name, their names and dates of death and search the social security death index for them. If you don't have access to the SS Death Index, find a PI or search angel that will run it for you for free.
She is not giving you a city, state where she lives. She is not telling you kids names and ages, she is telling you NOTHING. Stop providing information to her, that she can use for identity theft until you have confirmed with her that she IS who she says she is.
Tell her you will want a DNA before a meeting will be scheduled. SO there won't be any disappointment if it isn't a match.
In our case, we are searching for birth parents, so I have heights and eye color.... prove to me that you are who you say you are with a government issue doc that has those heights and eye colors on them.
Pictures of kids can be stolen from the internet. Run the pictures through a picture recognition program. I can tell you a free one if you contact me.
I caught a lady faking being a chef because all the pictures she posts, she stole from other websites. She was also faking a college degree and a fatal illness... some people are just attention seekers. Why would they do this? They are mentally ill. It's call Sociopath.
Track IP addresses of e-mails if you can. look at the header and go to a what's my IP site and plug in all the IPs. Is it coming from where they say? Some e-mail accounts hide the IP....
There are people that would do this, just to get into your bank accounts... you have your guard down, and are all excited. You would do things that you wouldn't normally do.
Ask for their Facebook Page. What 32 year old doesn't use Facebook? It should have more than just the pictures they sent you and should not have been set up, yesterday.
Look for property tax records in the city, state they say they are living. This won't work for a renter, but a home owner is listed in the county tax appraisal database and MANY of those are on-line with free searches of address or owners to see who owns the address they are claiming.
Have an intermediary talk and screen them BEFORE the searching party. That is what we are doing. I am searching for someone else, so that my "excitement level" isn't going to be on his level, and I won't throw caution to the wind. When our person contacts us... they will quickly learning they are dealing with a licensed Private Investigator and NOT the adoptee himself. We are going to be sure we know who we are talking to before we give out his information.
On-line privacy is a thing of the past. So many people don't have the first clue on how to set up different public accounts, so they don't link. So many people use the same username all over the internet.
I found one person who was claiming to be 25 on a dating site. A quick internet search of that username revealed a MYSPACE account, that had the same posted pictures, yet said he was 21 and it was set up 3 years prior. So, which is right, Match that says he is seeking a cougar? Or his MySpace account that he set up years ago?
PLEASE, PLEASE be careful when you are looking for someone on-line like this and someone that contacts you, only supplies you with information you posted yourself!!! Be safe with your computer and please, don't click on any links they send!!!
I should also add, Accounts like MYSPACE, Facebook, Google+, dating sites all determine your age by you putting in your birthday, so it is always right, not just outdated.
Search unlocked/unhidden Facebook accounts for the name you were given. Does the name, profile picture, or ANYTHING look like the person? (If you are like me and spend considerable time searching for people that don't want to be found, you don't use pictures of yourself as your profile picture!) You use different e-mail addresses on Google+, Facebook, Twitter, and your regular e-mail.... all ways I find people that are hiding!
I had one man hiding from me, but posted pictures of himself in Google+, so I knew him the second I saw him. He denied his identity when confronted, but it was too late! BOY was he mad. But, he used his regular e-mail address on his business card to post Google+ pictures.... People just don't think!
Don't forget LinkedIn as somewhere else to search. Google will find a lot for you for free. It just takes some time and knowing what you are looking for.
Either find a PI that has some spare time to offer Pro-Bono or just for their database search fees (not everything we use is free) but will donate the time. Maybe it is time for me to put together a handout with tips.... so I don't have to keep retyping them!
Safe Searching!
Just ask to arrange a DNA test - if she agrees do it. It's around a $100...pretty darn cheap for peace of mind.
Kind regards,
Dickons
Elaine gave you the right advice here. The only thing that I would add is that if you want to try to establish contact, ask her to provide a phone number and you be the one to call her. You can call via Google so that you have an easy way of blocking her if you need to, and she won't have your regular phone numbers. I use a Google voice number to screen several of the calls I receive.
Good luck to you. I hope this turns out to be a legitimate contact.
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we did hear back and i was able to get a bit info, it turns out she lives in Sydney Australia. Not sure how i will be able verify so im taking it one day as a time after chatting with her on messenger i do not believe she is out to harm anyone - i feel she honestly thinks that she is his daughter. i just hate this nagging feeling im getting from it.