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First post...
I'm 22 (I think) and I am totally confused. My dad and sister are both pure psychopaths and my mom is their slave. That's two evil people and one spineless coward. They treated me like dirt and they treat everyone else like dirt. I DO NOT want to be related to them. I told my mom I would give my left arm to not be related to her and I meant it. So my question is, is maybe being adopted just wishful thinking or is there something there?
Against: I asked my mom and she of course denied it. I don't trust anything she says, much less something this important.
I asked my aunt and she denied it.
I got my birth certificate from the state of California and it matches up with what I've been told, birth parents, city, date, and time. I keep staring at it but I can't figure out if it's amended or not.
For: I have never been accepted by them, even when I was doing everything I could. They always treated me like I shouldn't have been there. I get the feeling that if I was related to them I would have been indoctrinated as a pet like my mom was, instead of being outright rejected. They never included me in things, they always took off in their car to do god knows what.
I don't think I look like my dad. My sister doesn't look like my mom. We look like a fake family in our family photo.
I'm positive that horrible things happened to me as a toddler. Things that were bad enough to make me pick up a plastic hockey stick and go after them with murderous intent at age 3. Yes, that REALLY happened. It really stands out in my mind. It's my earliest memory, and I'm positive that it was the event that stopped the physical abuse for good. After that I had horrible, incredibly vivid (and revealing) nightmares for a few years that eventually ceased. Then it was just mind games, manipulation, and stealing for the next 17 years. So what I feel is, they wanted me gone, and they tried to make it happen. I almost drowned, the sexual abuse was not sexual or loving at all but merely a violent act (in retrospect a blessing), and I'm pretty suspicious about the scar on my head.
My parents were always whispering about something behind a locked door, and I mean hours every day. When I would go in to ask them something they would stop talking immediately and wait for me to leave.
When I was in about first grade I was walking to school and my dad told me a typical rambling psychopath story. But this one sticks out. He said there was a lady who wanted to hold me when I was a baby but he wouldn't let here because he thought she was going to touch me. Oh, the irony. At the time I just thought it was weird. But who was that lady?
My sister: "Your'e an orphan!" and "You'll always be a 'my last name'!"
My dad would always say "who's the best daddy in the whole darn world" over and over again. Because I was nice I would say "You are!" But he just HAD to hear me say that. I don't know, this one might be just to cover up the abuse.
Most suspicious of all, my dad would always say (at the most random times) "when's your birthday?" I would say "Jan. 8." (Sometimes I would express my irritation that he didn't know his son's birthday.) He would say "what year were you born?" and I would say "1991." He just HAD to know that I knew these things. Very sketchy. Who knows how old I am? I've always looked a couple years younger than my age.
Now the thing about psychopaths is, everything they say has a purpose. They give themselves away when they make these types of comments. Kind of stupid.
So what do you think? I don't know how to get to the bottom of this. There's liars everywhere.
This was kind of heavy. Here's a reward for making it this far. :cheer: :happydance: :banana: :happydance: :cheer:
I don't know if you're adopted or not.
There are many biological children who do not fit in with their families.
And, many children who were abused or grew up in less than ideal conditions have wished to be adopted, but they weren't.
On your birth certificate, it should list the date filed. Is it close (within days) of your birth? If not, you MIGHT be adopted.
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Mrnrfan1,
Yes...heavy it was. I'm sorry that you've had to endure all that you have.
Before I forget, as I interpret your screen name... GO M'S! :prop:
As to your question, and without trying to sound like an attorney, absent any actual evidence I don't think adoption is something you could ever prove. Having read your story, I get why the thought of being adopted would be attractive. I just don't know that you have any evidence for it.
My a-family sounded pretty close to yours for about the first 3 paragraphs (up to the abuse parts) except that in my family it was my a-mom and a-sister who were the drivers and my a-dad was the milktoast. I was adopted, but if I hadn't had people telling me about it or found the legal paperwork from when the case was completed etc, I wouldn't have been able to prove anything. I would've been able to walk around wondering "am I the only one in this house from this planet?" well enough, but that's about all.
And I know this isn't really why you're asking your question, but lets say that there is some truth to it and you were adopted and its been kept secret for some reason. Without some form of evidence beyond "I don't look like my family" there's really no place to start to search for your b-family. But if you did somehow search and found them, your b-family may very well ask for some sort of proof or evidence and it's right back to square one.
It sounds to me like, absent any evidence of the adoption, that there are some major issues and wondering about being adopted is perhaps a way of coping? I'm sure there are smarter people out there who can chime in and provide their thoughts as well.
Best,
PADJ
Date of birth: Jan 8, 1991
Date accepted for registration (Is that date filed?): Feb 7, 1991
So exactly 30 days.
Well, I don't care what a bio parent would think of me or even if they believed me. I don't even care who they are. I just want to know that my "parents" are not my parents.
-MarinerfanOne
One month between your birth and your registration doesn't send up any red flags.
You could do a DNA test with one of your parents or your sibling. That would give you some proof
I'm sorry that you've had such a rough childhood. It isn't fair.
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If I can't get what I want then I'm done. I don't care. I've shut my emotions completely off and I'm getting sicker every day. Good riddance to you liars. You don't deserve me.
Mrnrfan1
Don't you dare tell me that what I feel isn't true.
No one told you that what you feel isn't true.
What was said is that it's often hard to prove. I understand wanting to distance yourself from a situation. And you absolutely can do that regardless of whether or not there is a biological connection.
You can decide that regardless of what a DNA test might say that these are not your parents. That you no longer claim them. That's your right.
What L4R was saying is that it's not uncommon for a birth certificate to be issued 1 month after birth. I'm not sure how long it took to finalize an adoption in the past, but it's not instant. Ours took almost 5 months to finalize and get a new birth certificate. So, the bc shows a date filed of the day after her birth in August. The date issued is 5 months later in January. I don't see anything else that indicates it's amended.
So, if I didn't tell her, which we are, she wouldn't easily be able to tell from this. Unless she found the adoption documents, there'd be no proof of the adoption and nowhere for her to start in unraveling the puzzle.
I'm sorry that you're in a bad situation. I think it's best if you not worry about whether or not they are you're real parents and instead work on getting yourself into a safe and healthy environment.
I was raised by a very similar family. Sadly it is not exactly uncommon for bad parents to target one child. In my case I was targeted because my parents were not yet married when I came along and my mom was just sure that she would have had a different and better life if she had not decided to stay with my dad because of me, so she blamed me for ruining her life and I was her target. My dad did not know any of our birthdays. There was a lot of abuse. My bio kids birth certificates show they were filed later. Basically whenever the hospital got around to sending in the info. Sadly, I do know my parents are my real parents, this does not make it easier to deal with abuse. My mom was the abuser in my house. My brother chose to deal with it but sucking up to her, so he is the favorite who can do no wrong. (and a psychopath in his own right I do believe) They were always spending time together and whispering and such. You do not have to be adopted to dump your family once you are an adult. I no longer have contact with most of my family. I have four awesome kids who do not know my parents and will not know them. I have worked hard on healing myself and moving on. It's not easy, but it can be done. The more you dwell on the tantalizing possibility that you are not biologically related to them that is time you are not spending on healing. I do wish I wasn't related to them, but I am and so I will watch for signs of mental illness in my bio children and let them know it's in the family so they will be watchful. So far, so good, both bio kids are adults and doing great. I am doing great. I don't need them. Even if you were adopted you still have to deal with the trauma of your childhood and there is no guarantee the bio family would be found or interested in you or any better. (I totally had that fantasy growing up!) Good luck as you find your own way.
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If I accept that my parents are really my parents and decide to "just move on," and I'm WRONG, then I will be cut off from grieving being separated from my real parents the rest of my life. It will NEVER go away, it will never progress like normal grief does, there will be no tears or eventual relief. Imagine losing your parents in a car crash and then being told by everyone that they never existed, and then believing that. The inner conflict between you and your subconscious would crack you in half, regardless of having a wife and kids or fame or monetary success or accomplishment. The thing worse than grief is being cut from it, forever.
So you see how I can't be wrong about this. If I feel it deep down, there's nothing that can distract me from it for long. I cannot be wrong about this.
Mrnrfan1
If I accept that my parents are really my parents and decide to "just move on," and I'm WRONG, then I will be cut off from grieving being separated from my real parents the rest of my life. It will NEVER go away, it will never progress like normal grief does, there will be no tears or eventual relief. Imagine losing your parents in a car crash and then being told by everyone that they never existed, and then believing that. The inner conflict between you and your subconscious would crack you in half, regardless of having a wife and kids or fame or monetary success or accomplishment. The thing worse than grief is being cut from it, forever.
I don't see this as black and white and wasn't suggesting you accept that these are your parents.
I'm saying it's unlikely that short of a DNA test you will ever know for sure. Since you can't find a way to just let the question be, I'd strongly suggest you get a DNA test. That will tell you for sure. Check around and I bet you can just bring in something with their DNA on it rather than having to get them to participate in the test.
The thing is, that feeling isn't reality. They may actually be your parents. What will you do then? If a DNA test confirms that this is your genetic, biological family? You'll still need to distance yourself from them.
And what if it turns out they aren't your genetic, biological family. You'll still need to greive over what has happened in your life. You'll still need to find a way to come to terms with the life you've actually had.
See at this point, you really need to take care of you. You need to be able to decide that people who aren't healthy have no place in your life regardless of whether or not they are biological family. You need to deal with the things that have happened to you. You need to find a way to separate suspicions about what might have happened and deal with what did actually happen. I can read your first post and see alternate explanations for many of the things in your post as an outsider. But I wasn't there, you were. You need to deal with the life you have and the one you have lived first.
This adoption obsession, because at this point, that's really all it is (and I don't mean that to be mean, just that you're obsessing about something you can't change, can't control and can't even know) is not helping you heal your past hurts. And until you do that, you shouldn't even consider trying to find your first family if they exist.
You said "So you see how I can't be wrong about this. If I feel it deep down, there's nothing that can distract me from it for long. I cannot be wrong about this." But that doesn't have any meaning other than you've gotten obsessed about this idea. It doesn't give it validity. Just because you strongly feel something doesn't mean it's real. There was a time that many people strongly felt that the world was flat. They were wrong. They argued over it. They tried to shame and disgrace those who disagreed with them because they were so certain they were right. That certainity didn't mean they were correct.
I hope you find peace. Do some googling on how to do a DNA test. It will answer the question for you so that you can then find a way to heal.
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