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I have my birth ceritificate with my adoptive parents name's on it. When petitioning the Court would I receive ( if successful) the original? with my birth name and Mothers name? What other information can I gleam from this Adoptive Birth Certificate? I read a post about something about the nymbers on the Certificate? Going to the New York Public Library and looking up the Birth Registry? Does anyone know anything about this?
You may or may not get a birthfather's name on the OBC - Mine simply said "Declines to state" - Fortunately my mother gave it to me when I found her.
Have you tried any other means of getting the original ? - A request to the hospital that you were born in from a family physician can do wonders.
Take care,
TSBAHRS
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Hello: Responses to the issue you pose are somewhat confusing for myself as an interested reader; but, I will add my 2 :rolleyes: worth of attempts. I thought I was going a 'new route' finding a link through an adoption/foster URL for my birth state Kentucky. My birth certificate had been lost/stolen, the original which omitted much information but included my race and did not include my adopted parents (was hard to place, 3 yrs old almost and a different race); what i received in the mail was a red/white (not the old carbon black/white) birth certificate which omitted my race and listed my adoptive parents, they won again. I wish there were a way to nullify their 'ownership' policies, especially on this level where it would inhibit my life if i had to use this document as identifying information; really, for this reason I began looking again (despite the state telling me my bmother refused me); and found her (she is still in refusal-says i was stolen, et al -which explains my attitude toward my parents all those years)...but anyway, good luck, your question is somewhat confusing, maybe someone will parlay a broader answer about the legal-e's of it all, I certainly would appreciate it.
I received my original birth certificate with my birth mothers name and no father named on it. I also received my original adoption records with all names intact.
Guess this is more the exception than the rule and you need to find a sympathetic judge.
Unfortunately, I never did obtain my OBC; finding my b-family was enough, I guess,for the interim; I know that I probably would have to petition the court, though, having checked with the vital statistics from a website of my state of birth, Kentucky. Sorry I have no more leads.
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I don't know about the #'s on the birth certificate. If you find out please let me know. I am an adult adoptee from Michigan. Were you able to hire an intermediary to locate birth mother or father? That's where I started. My birth mother did not want contact and the intermediary was not able to contact birth father due to lack of information. I am not waiting for the form to petition the court to release identifying information. I have to go to court house in MI and meet with Judge to do this. E-nail me if you want more information or can help in anyway.
Are you able to get the original certificate if you don't know the name you were given when you were born? I have birth certificate but it is the one with my "adopted" name on it.
I am in the process of setting up a court date to meet with Judge to try to get identifying information on bmother and bfather. I hired intermediary but bmother did not want contact and bfather was not located due to lack of information. Any advise that you can give me when meeting with Judge? Should I hire an adoption lawyer to accompany me in court? Any information you can provide would be appreciated. Thanks!
snuffie
I received my original birth certificate with my birth mothers name and no father named on it. I also received my original adoption records with all names intact.
Guess this is more the exception than the rule and you need to find a sympathetic judge.
Hello:
I may have left a confusing post earlier. My birthmother was initially contacted by the Dept. of Social Services with the adoption segment of goverment from my home state. At this time she was, luckily, visiting that state (Kentucky), but denied my request to meet her. It was extremely painful. I did not petition the courts (although for other requests you do have to petition). My half brother found me on the other hand, through his own inductive reasoning, after noting he was not the first born on his birth certificate...I wish you luck with the state of Michigan; I know that once denied in KY they will not request from the parent again without a court order. My birth parents were not married, so i doubt any information except what I know through my half brother is available. I wish the system also had information on foster parents, but I am sure my foster mother, who I lived with for my first 3 yrs and who I considered my mother, has since died. Good luck again, take care.
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Doug72
I have my birth ceritificate with my adoptive parents name's on it. When petitioning the Court would I receive ( if successful) the original? with my birth name and Mothers name? What other information can I gleam from this Adoptive Birth Certificate? I read a post about something about the nymbers on the Certificate? Going to the New York Public Library and looking up the Birth Registry? Does anyone know anything about this?
NYS has closed adoption laws..thats the problem. we CANNOT get that original birth certificate with birth parents on it. If ANYONE knows otherwise about NYS PLEASE tell us.....
Hello: received your inquiry online. Just wanted to say, mainly, good luck. After I had received a copy of a 'remade' birth certificate, I did go online to the Kentucky website (state where I was born/adopted); and since I had previously received a copy of my original birth certificate, I could not understand the new one. The law now requires in KY that a person do request to the court for original birth certificates. I believe they even had the necessary affidavit forms to download online (can't be sure of that, I was surfing). I don't think it is too difficult, you just need to pay a fee; I don't believe having an attorney to petition the court is necessary (petitioning just means submitting court documents, with or without notary I do not know). Good luck again. :)
Have you checked out the info on this website regarding NY laws?
[url="http://forums.adoption.com/showthread.php?t=113520"]http://forums.adoption.com/showthread.php?t=113520[/url]
There is a lot of information here.
Good luck!
Karen
I don't know if this will be viewed by the initial messenger but I did follow up on State legislation, and even received some legal forms. But without assistance from the birth family, it is very difficult to petition American Indian heritage. My birthmother was NOT African American but Cherokee Indian; making me 1/2 Cherokee, 1/2 White (anonymous).
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Doug, if I understand your post you are asking for identifying information regarding your b-parents.
If the records are sealed no identifying information can be provided. Having said that, some states are more strict than others in terms of the information they will provide. Gaining sealed identifying information can be related to a roll of the dice. Some judges are lenient, others are more strict.
The judge follows the laws provided by the state legislature.
Attempts to unseal the records by petitioning the court requires that you provide evidence that is more meaningful and outweighs the reasons for which the records were sealed. In law, this is "good cause."
Many courts do not accept medical evidence as a reason to unseal records, even in the face of terminal disease.
If you know where your adoption was finalized, you can contact the clerk of that court and they will provide information on how to petition the court. The information to petition the court is free. The clerk will not give legal advice.
I wish you the best.
If you live in Illinois, you can send a form in and 15.00 starting Oct 2011. A copy of the original will be sent to you. I think I seen this on the vital stats website. But you have to wait until then . You have to be an adopted adult within a certain year too.