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Hello everyone.
This is my first post to the birthparents board. I've been thinking about this lately since I joined this site several months ago. I have spent many an hour on the adult adoptee boards reading everyone's stories, but really haven't posted my entire story.
I'm hoping someone can give me an idea if I should try to talk again with my birthmother, or just let sleeping dogs lie.
Please bare with me. I don't want to give any unnecessary details, but want everyone who reads this to get the full picture.
I'll try to condense the history. I was placed for adoption at birth. I was 21 when I "miraculously" (pre Internet) :) found my bmom. She spent maybe two minutes that night on the phone denying who she was, then admitted it - to my relief. She told me my two sisters' names, but that was really as far as we got with anything personal. She did ask if I'd had a good life.
I called her occasionally over the next few months. She was always polite, but it was very general (how is the weather?) type of phone calls and she'd have an excuse not to talk very long. She never called me - I always called her. When I realized that I was the one making the effort, I decided to wait to see if she contacted me on my birthday which was 3 months away. That day came and went, she didn't call, and I was devastated. (I was pretty young and naive at the time).
Shortly after that, I called one of her other two daughters. They knew nothing about me, but all was ok with them both. They were shocked, as this was never something they expected their mother to do. But, they never even considered that they needed to forgive her for anything and were never angry at her for keeping me and the adoption a secret. They accepted what she felt she had to do, and they accepted me as part of their family.
Ok, I'm trying to fast forward and not leave out anything important. I went to visit about 6 months after contacting my sisters for the first time. Bmom came to see me, and was polite but distant - like I was her daughter's friend or something. She said she was glad she got to finally meet me. That was it.
During that visit, I found out that I look quite a lot like one of my cousins (my baunt's daughter.) I started to put two and two together and began seriously wondering if my aunt's ex-husband was my father. My sister's, when I suggested this to them, were thinking the same thing. My bmom had told the adoption agency that she was raped by two men. Her husband was in the military and overseas at the time I was conceived. The adoption agency doubted her story, but I never really thought much about it until meeting the family. During my next visit, I went with my two sisters to have our picture taken together. I was always dissappointed that I didn't look like either of them.
After that, I would have contact with my sisters and occasionally my uncle and grandmother, but for the most part, respected that (as far as I could tell) my mother had been made pregnant by her ex-brother-in-law and that she didn't want the community and her family to know this. I understood and so, I kept myself scarce.
Fast forward 15 years. (a year ago last October) my bmom's mother passed away. I went back to pay my respects, but had planned to keep a safe distance because I still suspected that her ex-brother-in-law was my father. Before I arrived, my bmom's niece was visiting my sister and saw the picture of me and my two sisters. She said, "My dad is her dad. There's no doubt in my mind." My bmom found out about this. The day of the funeral (I got permission to attend from my bmom - however, my sister was the one to ask her). When I walked into the church, my bmom came over to me (it's the first time she's ever approached me). Gave me a hug and said, "It's time for me to leave my past in the past." "I'm sorry." Then she gave me a kiss on the cheek and walked away. I was thinking, she finally wants to try and have a relationship with me. This was huge. But then, she didn't talk to me the rest of the time I was there and wouldn't come see me before I left. So I thought, "Well, I must have misunderstood her and she was actually telling me that her past (which I am part of) needs to go away." I thought, "Why would she suddenly do this, after all these years?" Then I remembered that my cousin was getting a little too close for comfort in her ideas as to who my father is and my bmom was trying to cut things off at the pass. This further cemented the possibility of him being my father.
Fast forward again 8 months. To try to shorten this long story, I'll skip some details. I ended up calling the man I suspected of being my father (my bmom's ex-brother-in-law.) I said to him, "I was born in Dec. 1968 and I think I may be a relative of yours." He said, "Oh, my God, I have wondered about you for years and years." I told him that I knew who my mother was, but that I needed to hear it from him. I NEEDED to hear it from the source itself without any prompting from me. If that makes sense. He told me without my prompting him in any way and I was blown away. What I had suspected for 15 years was true. Turns out, my bparents had a 9 year affair - 7 of those years was after I was born. This was confirmed by him and by his ex-wife and some of their children. My dad was married to my bmom's sister the entire time of the affair and my bmom was married as well.
I can fully understand her wanting me to stay away. She has built a place for herself in the community and she doesn't want people to judge her and suspect her of being something other than what she has presented herself to be (I believe she has lived as the person she WANTS to be and just wants to ensure that everyone else sees her for the person she is/wants to be.) Hope that makes sense.
Now that I knew the truth. I felt that in order to put this to rest, I needed to let her know that I knew the truth. I called her for the first time in 15 years. I said that I had some things I wanted to say to her and began by apologizing for contacting her by phone the way I did the first time 15 years before. And I apologized for not being as invisible at her mother's funeral as I had planned to be. She said in the sweetest, most loving voice, "Oh, that's alright. None of this is your fault." Then she proceeded to tell me that she is afraid to go out at night because of what happened to her (the alleged rape). And that everytime she hears my name, she gets sick to her stomach and because I've called her, she won't be able to eat for a week. Ouch. She didn't say it in a mean way. She said it as if she were really in pain, but her words stung, that's for sure. So, I took a deep breath and told her that I had something else I needed to tell her - that I knew her ex-brother-in-law was my father. She stammered and didn't know what to say. So, I tried to turn it into a good thing. I said, "I'm relieved, to be honest with you." "I'm glad to find out that my father isn't some unknown rapist." She paused for a bit, then said in this shrill voice, "KNOWN rapist." I said, "Excuse me?" She said in an even more shrill voice "KNOWN rapist!!" I said, in a pretty sad weak voice, (now that I think about it), "I thought you might say that." Because it certainly crossed my mind that she would lay the blame on him. She then said, "I didn't know how to say No!" So, I said, very gently, "But...for nine years....?" She then said, "I am a Christian woman! I went to Sunday school every Sunday as a child. I go to church faithfully! I was married! I would never do something like that!" So, I ended up saying, "well, I just wanted you to know that I know and that it's not my place to tell anyone (referring to her other two daughters.) We then spent the next two hours talking about politics and terrorism and the current events of the world and had a wonderful conversation. I actually tried to give her an out three different times, by saying, "Well, I really don't want to upset your life at all and maybe someday in the future we'll talk again." But each time I said that, she would go off on something else about how she felt about certain things, or her likes and dislikes. Finally, on the fourth try, I said, "Well, I don't want to cause you any stress" to which she said, "Yeah, I have a lot of that in my life." and then I said, "Well, maybe we'll talk again someday in the future." She said, very cheerily, "Ok, we'll talk to you soon!!" and we hung up. That was 5 months ago. She hasn't called me, I haven't called her.
Also, everyone except her two daughters know (for sure) who my bfather is. Except that my bmom doesn't know that they know. She should know that they know? Should I just leave her alone?
I had a very wise person tell me, "That is great that the mention of your name makes her sick! This is the first step in working through the past and being able to move on!" I was blown away by that. But I'm confused. Should I just leave well enough alone, or should I try to reach out to her and hopefully in the process, help her get over the past, so that maybe we can have some sort of relationship (friends) and she can finally be healed of the pain she's endured?
I totally appreciate any and all opinions on this.
Please, if you have anything to offer at all, please post. I desperately don't want to make the wrong move here. I don't want to hurt her and at the same time, if there is a chance of us both healing our past wounds, I want to forge ahead.
Raina
[font=Verdana]I'm sorry your reunion with your bmom didn't go well. But, I can't see where she needs to "get past her pain" and NOT speak to you! She had an affair with her sister's husband for nine years; lies to you about your origin; ignores you in public, why are you beating yourself up over wanting a relationship with someone who doesn't respect you? [/font]
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[font=Verdana]I was once told me a very wise person:" don't put expectations into people or situations that YOU have no control over-it keeps you from being disappointed"[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Anyway, I hope for the best, but ask yourself: do I really want a relationship with someone who isnӒt honest and respectful towards me?[/font]
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Raina...I am clueless about what the next step should be, if there is one. it reads like a made-for-tv-movie script, doesn't it?
She may well believe that what she has said over the years is her truth now...we can kid ourselves, that's for sure.
It did seem that she sure wanted to talk with you, didn't it? that must have made a part of you feel good...even tho you didn't get the honesty that you were hoping for.
That everyone else knows, but your sisters...well, that's a tough one, too. Surely they suspect, but wouldn't want to think that mom carried on with her sister's husband...that's not a happy truth. I'd suspect that yhey have an inkling, even tho they are not 'fessing up either.
Do you still have contact with the uncle-dad person? Maybe you said and i missed it. It is cool that he was able to give you some peace in one area.
Do you contact her and press the issue? When in doubt, I try to imagine myself in the other person's place...what would I want...how maybe could i be approached, etc...Well, it's not your duty to help her see the errors of her ways...she knows somewhere in her heart and soul what the reality is..she'll have to live with that.
Do you want a relationship with her? If so...maybe that is a starting point of itself, just having those conversations that build familiarity, friendship, and go onto being more intimate friends, like a parent might be with an adult child.
Do you want a relationship with your sisters? Do they want one with you? What are you willing to do to get that?
I get the part about healing your past wopunds, but you can only really heal your own wounds..she has to do her own work. Some people don't seem to be able to cross that bridge and see into themselves. That is a big thing to admit to. She surely doesn't have to tell the community...only herself..it'd be cool if she could say the ruth to you, too...but that may never happen.
If you were my daughter and I'd done what she had done...I'd be mortified by my actions...embarrassed, ashamed, etc...but I'd want to know you...and if we were to have a good relationship, honesty is a great first step, even tho that step means revealing some things that one wouldn't be proud of.
Your concern for her is quite commendable, shows what a wonderful, caring person you are...maybe just call when you feel up to it and leave the door open for her to peek thru and feel safe enough that she can spill her story as it really happened. There is the chance that she was raped, but you weren't a result of that rape...she may be telling a lie of omission..who knows? Only she knows the real story...May I suggest praying for her...for her peace and healing, as well as your own.
Wow Manni. I must have really misconstrued myself in my post. I'm so sorry.
Thank you for being sorry that my reunion with bmom didn't go well. It's ok, really. I completely understand her reasoning and have never been upset by the fact that she chooses not to have contact. I've known her for 15 years (well, 15 1/2 now) and the call I made to her 5 months ago was the first time I've reached out to contact her in nearly 15 years. I've respected her unspoken choice that I not be part of her life. I don't take it personally. I realize that the social stigma of what happened all those years ago is more than she has been able to handle in the past.
I never meant to suggest that she get over it or "get past her pain" simply because I say she should. What I was asking is, do I have the power (since I am the only one she has even remotely opened up to) to help her deal with the pain? Am I passing up an opportunity to help her work through all that stuff and help her to realize that her family and friends love her despite any choices she made nearly 40 years ago. I'm sorry, but 40 years is a long time to be so alone in your misery. If I have the chance to help her through that, I would be a pretty awful person to NOT take on that challenge. But my question is, "should I?" "DO I have that ability?"
I'm not "beating myself up over wanting a relationship with her". I'm truly not. I have always been completely content with having contact with my bsisters, bgrandma, bdad, bbrothers, buncle, baunt. I just feel sorry that we have all come together, yet she is still sitting there in pain all by herself.
I have no expectations. I just want to know if I should try to contact her on occasion, be cordial and caring, and laugh and joke with her about life in general, and try to get her to see, as I said before, that nobody hates her and everybody loves her and it's time to give herself a break. I don't think I'm being selfish by asking others if I have a chance to provide this for someone, or if I am just too painful a memory for her, and therefore, it would only hurt her more. Again, it has nothing to do with ME and I'm sorry if I wasn't able to convey that clearly in my post.
Thank you for your response.
Raina
manni28
[font=Verdana]I'm sorry your reunion with your bmom didn't go well. But, I can't see where she needs to "get past her pain" and NOT speak to you! She had an affair with her sister's husband for nine years; lies to you about your origin; ignores you in public, why are you beating yourself up over wanting a relationship with someone who doesn't respect you? [/font]
[font=Verdana]I was once told me a very wise person:" don't put expectations into people or situations that YOU have no control over-it keeps you from being disappointed"[/font]
[font=Times New Roman]Anyway, I hope for the best, but ask yourself: do I really want a relationship with someone who isnӒt honest and respectful towards me?[/font]
I just want to know if I should try to contact her on occasion, be cordial and caring, and laugh and joke with her about life in general, and try to get her to see, as I said before, that nobody hates her and everybody loves her and it's time to give herself a break.
I said yes to all you said above, EXCEPT for telling her to give herself a break - I don't think that will be helpful to say that - it is a decision she must make on her own. When I was grieving during the early days of reunion people told me that - didn't help - I needed to grieve until I was done. I wasn't ready yet to "give myself a break" and I had to decide that - no one else could.
If she is to heal, it is something that she must do herself. As sweet and kind as it is of you to offer, she's got to do her own work to heal. But, having a relationship with you - which she has to know is the right thing to do - could be very helpful to her. IF she is willing and able to try.
Her statement about feeling sick to her stomach after speaking to you was a REALLY poor choice of words on her part. She flat out stuck her foot in her mouth with that comment and may not be too great with communicating. Sounds to me as though she maybe lives denying and not dealing with the past except when she speaks to you - just a guess. But, I think most likely that you are not what causing her pain; it is her own guilt that comes up when she is in touch with you.
I firmly believe that it is healthier to face one's fears and deal with them in order to heal. And if you can slowly build a relationship with her, maybe it will be positive for her and she can begin to heal. It all depends on her though - and whether she's ready to do the work.
Do what YOU want to do. If you want to make another gesture and reach out to her, do so. Then just keep in regular contact with her for awhile and see what happens. Until she tells you to stop, keep in touch with her if you want to. Show her you intend to stick around. Maybe she hasn't had too many people do that in her life and is scared to let herself love you.
Tell her that you know how hard this must be for her, but, that you would like to build a relationship with her if possible (if that is what you want). See what she says. Do whatever will make you the happiest - if that's being in touch with her, again as long as she didn't tell you directly not to contact her, you have every right to do so.
Raina...I am clueless about what the next step should be, if there is one. it reads like a made-for-tv-movie script, doesn't it?
LOL. I am completely clueless too, Mari. That's why I put off asking this question for so long. I should have some sort of feeling about it before I can expect anyone else too, right? :) Made-for-TV-movie....LOL. I have one friend who knows the whole story. She is quite an eccentric person and even though I'm completely opposite, I just love her and her eccentric reaction to things :). When I told her about my bdad and who he is in relation to the rest of my bfamily, her eyes got really wide and she said, nearly at the top of her lungs, "YOU SHOULD BE ON JERRY SPRINGER or OPRAH!!" "YOU REALLY SHOULD." lol. Well, there's no way I would do that, but her reaction was pretty funny and I just love her honest, open spirit.
She may well believe that what she has said over the years is her truth now...we can kid ourselves, that's for sure.
I had thought about that too. Sometimes, you try so hard to convince others of something, that you truly end up believing it yourself.
It did seem that she sure wanted to talk with you, didn't it? that must have made a part of you feel good...even tho you didn't get the honesty that you were hoping for.
Thank you for your kind word, Mari. To be completely honest, I had the mindset that she would try to hang up as quick as possible, so I was pretty confused as to why she would try to stay on the phone...again leading me to think..."Well, maybe she would like to talk about all this stuff and try to work through it." Because, I'm the only one in her life that knows the whole story.
That everyone else knows, but your sisters...well, that's a tough one, too. Surely they suspect, but wouldn't want to think that mom carried on with her sister's husband...that's not a happy truth. I'd suspect that yhey have an inkling, even tho they are not 'fessing up either.
They actually thought he was my father, before I ever mentioned to them "do you suppose....???" I don't feel it is my place to ever tell them. I told my bmom during that phone call that it wasn't my place and that I wouldn't say anything to them. And that's where that is going to lie. I'm not going to go back on my word on that. So, yes, they do have more than an inkling. They even asked her if he was, several years ago, although I just found out that they asked her. She didn't answer then one way or the other, she just kind of went "huh!" and rolled her eyes. I'm sure THAT threw them off the trail...:). I apologize, I had to throw that in there :). It just seems sometimes, the harder you try to hide something, the more transparent you become.
Do you still have contact with the uncle-dad person? Maybe you said and i missed it. It is cool that he was able to give you some peace in one area.
Yes, I have occasional contact with my bdad. I went to meet him last September. That was an incredible experience. I also got to meet a brother and his little 2 year old daughter. It was truly a wonderful experience.
Do you contact her and press the issue? When in doubt, I try to imagine myself in the other person's place...what would I want...how maybe could i be approached, etc...Well, it's not your duty to help her see the errors of her ways...she knows somewhere in her heart and soul what the reality is..she'll have to live with that.
No. I don't contact her. Other than this most recent phone call (15 years after the last phone call), I don't contact her. I don't press the issue. Honestly, I have stayed away because I HAVE put myself in her place. I can completely understand her humiliation, her mortification, her embarrassment. I do not hate her for it, I do not resent her for it. I don't want her to "see the errors of her ways." It is so WAY beyond that for everyone - except her. She would never consider seeing a "professional" and opening herself up like that. So, she has remained divorced, never dated, living a life all alone. I feel horrible that she has not allowed herself some sense of happiness. All I want to know is, is it possible that I could help her reach that place where she could finally begin to forgive herself and start to see that lingering cloud over her head dissappear? If I have the opportunity to do this, and I don't, how could I ever forgive myself for not helping another?
Do you want a relationship with her?
I have many questions I'd like to ask her someday. What was it like when you were pregnant with me? Did I kick alot? Did you see me when I was born? Things like that. A relationship? No. I don't think so. I mean, I think we could be some variation of friends if she were open to it, but if she isn't, that's ok. Honestly, it really is.
Do you want a relationship with your sisters? Do they want one with you? What are you willing to do to get that?
I actually do have a relationship with most of my sisters. Some I have yet to contact, but that's all in due time. I am content with my relationships with them. We live very far apart and talk and see each other when we can. We laugh and joke about our similarities. It's all a great thing :).
Your concern for her is quite commendable, shows what a wonderful, caring person you are...maybe just call when you feel up to it and leave the door open for her to peek thru and feel safe enough that she can spill her story as it really happened. There is the chance that she was raped, but you weren't a result of that rape...she may be telling a lie of omission..who knows? Only she knows the real story...May I suggest praying for her...for her peace and healing, as well as your own.
Thank you so, so much for your kind words. It really means a lot. From what I've been told, my bmom and bdad seemed to care very deeply for each other, but obviously, because of the circumstances, it wasn't something they could come forward with.
Anyway, thank you again. I will re-read your words often as I continue to process this whole thing.
Raina
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Southernroots
I said yes to all you said above, EXCEPT for telling her to give herself a break - I don't think that will be helpful to say that - it is a decision she must make on her own. When I was grieving during the early days of reunion people told me that - didn't help - I needed to grieve until I was done. I wasn't ready yet to "give myself a break" and I had to decide that - no one else could.
Thank you Southern. I guess that was my wish for her coming out in that sentence. I would like her to SEE that she should give herself a break, but I would never tell her that. Frankly, hearing something like that from someone is about as useful as what my ex-husband use to say to me, "why can't you just 'get over it'". That's a great way to set someone back several steps and make them feel ashamed for feeling the way that they feel. Again, I would never dream of saying something like that to her and that was a poor choice of words on my part. Thank you for calling me on it. :)
Southernroots
If she is to heal, it is something that she must do herself. As sweet and kind as it is of you to offer, she's got to do her own work to heal. But, having a relationship with you - which she has to know is the right thing to do - could be very helpful to her. IF she is willing and able to try.
I guess the difficult part is that she is just way too kind. I honestly don't think she would ever, in so many words, tell me to go away for good and that she doesn't want contact with me. So, I don't know if my being in contact, and hopefully making her more comfortable over the mention of my name (to begin with), would really help?.....or if it would just throw her farther into her own grief.....that is my dilemma.
Southernroots
Her statement about feeling sick to her stomach after speaking to you was a REALLY poor choice of words on her part. She flat out stuck her foot in her mouth with that comment and may not be too great with communicating. Sounds to me as though she maybe lives denying and not dealing with the past except when she speaks to you - just a guess. But, I think most likely that you are not what causing her pain; it is her own guilt that comes up when she is in touch with you.
I think you are right. I remember her saying that and I thought at the time, "Wow. I would never say that to my child." But, it really hasn't bothered me that she said that.
She doesn't talk about her past to anyone. I'm the only one in her family that has heard anything from her about me and my adoption and the circumstances. She has told no friends. She is mortified at the thought of her pastor finding out. I am the only one who really has any clue - thus I am the only one she could potentially confide in, in order to start working through her feelings about the entire thing.
Southernroots
I firmly believe that it is healthier to face one's fears and deal with them in order to heal. And if you can slowly build a relationship with her, maybe it will be positive for her and she can begin to heal. It all depends on her though - and whether she's ready to do the work.
I don't want to force myself on her and I don't want to cause her more pain. That is why I am in such a dilemma. Would talking with her on occasion and letting her into my life bits and pieces at a time, help her to open up a bit, relax a bit, and eventually work toward healing, or will it just further cause her to withdraw into herself? I just don't know.
Southernroots
Do what YOU want to do. If you want to make another gesture and reach out to her, do so. Then just keep in regular contact with her for awhile and see what happens. Until she tells you to stop, keep in touch with her if you want to. Show her you intend to stick around. Maybe she hasn't had too many people do that in her life and is scared to let herself love you.
If that is how she feels afraid to let herself love, then we have something in common right off the bat :). I think, the fear of letting ourselves love is something we both share.
To be honest, it is much easier for me to stay in my own world 1500 miles away from her and just tell myself, "She's missing out on so much, but hey, it's her decision, not mine." Because that is easier than opening myself up and making the effort to contact someone-my mother- who I am not sure even WANTS this.
You know, you are right. Whatever comes of this, maybe what I need to do is let her know that she has my complete support and that I DO love her, as the woman who gave me life should be loved. That was off the top of my head...does that make sense? I don't want to say "I LOVE YOU!!" but I do totally care about her happiness and well-being and if I can do anything to aid in her healing, I want to make that effort. Even though it may be difficult for me too.
Southernroots
Tell her that you know how hard this must be for her, but, that you would like to build a relationship with her if possible (if that is what you want). See what she says. Do whatever will make you the happiest - if that's being in touch with her, again as long as she didn't tell you directly not to contact her, you have every right to do so.
What you said makes sense. Instead of "should I" "shouldn't I", I should decide what is going to work for me, process all the scenarios and then make my decision. I don't know. Honestly, this isn't about me and what I want. I see a very lonely woman who has lived silently in a lot of grief and she doesn't realize that she has the love and support of everyone around her. But maybe this declaration of love and support should come from those in her family that she's known forever...before the declaration of understanding and support will ever be accepted from me......???? Hmm.
You are all just the greatest group of people. So much knowledge, so much advice, so much support to give. I can only hope to give back half what I have received from everyone on this board.
Thank you all.
I'll keep plugging away at these thoughts for the next few days and maybe I'll finally come to a decision. :)
Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. You are the greatest.
Raina
Raina...your sensitivity shines through.
What can you do that will leave you with as few regrets as possible...how about that as a starting point?
You are 40, she's what, 65 or so? Time becomes a practical concern.
If you truly feel and believe that you have the means to help her and are willing to hang in there with her...that is your choice, maybe this is your chance....
The questions you have about your "womb" experience, you surely can ask those. Those may rattle her mind just enough to get her back to thinking about it all; she well may have buried most everything about the experience, especially if it was "taboo".
Your acceptance of her, flaws and all, may be a good starting point for her in forgiving and accepting herself.
who knows, you may end up with a pretty good relationship with her...she may start to like herself, too...
Perhaps you are right, you offer her a huge gift.
It could well free you both to feel strong enough to love.
But maybe this declaration of love and support should come from those in her family that she's known forever...before the declaration of understanding and support will ever be accepted from me......???? Hmm.
But, will it come from them? You can't heal her, but, maybe you can help her, maybe you are the one she needs to hear from - maybe you are the one that she needs the love, understanding and support from. Maybe, maybe not - you can only offer - and see if it helps. I know that for me, being found forced me to deal with my issues and getting to know my son during the time that I worked on healing meant the world to me. I firmly believe that being in touch with him was what I needed and that I wouldn't have healed without his finding me and then building a relationship with me. But, somehow, I was ready to deal with the past too after he found me, maybe she is - maybe not - timing is everything in reunion.
It is scary making a gesture to reach out to someone and offer your love. But, in the long run, won't you feel better knowing that it was the right thing to do? I think if you do decide to try, you need to make a commitement to the idea of a relationship and then stay in consistent contact with her. Won't YOU feel better if you at least make the effort? Maybe, maybe not, only you can decide if it is worth the emotional risk to you.
If she's told no one, no wonder every time you call it is upsetting to her. Poor thing needs to find the courage to ask for her and support and tell people about you and her situation. Not excusing that remark of hers, that was really awful, but, I do not think she probably understood how it would feel to you.
You said that you worry that she's too nice to tell you? You may have to figure it out then on your own then. But I really think that if she really did not want to hear from you that she would might eventually say so - she probably has mixed emotions. Want to hear from you - but doesn't because it forces her to remember what she's trying to ignore - her past. She needs to face up to it eventually though - I do not believe that she can heal unless she does.
I hope you know that I wasn't intending to "call you", but, only said that because I knew that it wouldn't be helpful to you to say that to her. :)
Have you considered writing her a letter and telling her that you would like to build a relationship with her? Can you safely send her a letter without "exposing" her? It's a tough call - but ultimately you have to decide what you can live with best - what you will regret the least years down the road.
As for worrying about causing her further grief, she has to be mulling this all over anyway and she does needs to come to terms with it eventually. Extending yourself to her shouldn't cause her more grief, but, you can only make the offer - and then she chooses how to respond. Your intention is to offer her support and love and that is what you are responsible for - how she responds is up to her.
Maybe you just need to let her know that when she is ready, you would like to know her - and then she can decide when the timing is right for her? Or maybe you need to accept that she is stuck and may or may not be able to move forward? Just things to ponder.
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[font=Verdana]I was thinking about your post(again) and I thought" maybe the bmom is ashamed" of her actions-and it's nothing personal against you but seeing you reminds her of what her did ( having an affair w/ her BIL). Anyway, I would take southerns advice a keep-in-touch i.e., cards and email, if possible, but I wouldn't take it personally if she doesn't respond, at least you tried. [/font]
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Thank you again for your responses everyone.
I'm not ready to make that call yet. I am sure I will eventually.
I have thought SO many times about writing her a letter, but I'm afraid she'd just throw it in the trash as she did 15 years ago.
I don't want her to fear (or get sick to her stomach) each time I call, so maybe what I should do is just call and talk about everyday things for a while and just spend time getting to know each other and build up some trust.
Thanks again. I'll let everyone know when I do finally make that call. Maybe my experience can help someone else along the way :).
Raina
Hello - I have to wonder - what ended their affair? Sounds to me like she can't handle the fact that she literally screwed up and lied all these years.. still in denial. Did her husband leave her after finding out? Maybe your bmom carries some resentment towards your bdad because he never took the time to find out the real facts. Bmom never contacted him it seems. Maybe she needs some kind of validation from bdad. She grew up religiously and must feel some kind of emotional tug re: you, the situation and the fact that your bdad carried on with his life. Just seems the openess is one way. Bdad being open and bmom not totally. Perhaps your a reminder that she was "sinful" for numerous years (how did she hide it 7 years after you were born - pretended it was her husbands) Perhaps she never came clean w/ her husband and feels bad . . again it's part of the missing "how did the affair end" mystery. How could she put you up for adoption if her husband was alive. Maybe I missed something - I'll have to go back and read.
A piece seems to be missing. An update would be good and thoughts/answers to my post would be interesting. Honestly - I wouldn't push to get into their lives. Your a reminder of a "mess" they tried to clean up. Obviously for some reason she wanted to preserve bfathers family not telling him. How could she lie and keep that secret after your birth for 7 years. I don't mean to sound mean, but she's probably tried to move on and be a "good" person in her eyes. How could a person lie like that. What's the scoop w/ your aparents? I'm starting to ramble. ..
Hope to hear from you again.
Maybe you could write her a note . Tell her you love her. Tell her you forgive her for what she did and it hurts you to see her "hide". It probably is still embarrassing for her. (?) It's not like she's happy that a product of her affair is walking around like she wasn't bad - that was a terrible thing for her to do and to keep going after you were born. Ask her how she feels about you being with your siblings? She may have been quite stressed during her preganancy to even remember "kicking" or whatever . . What she did was quite shameful. I think the communication that you've rec'd from her seems quite adequate considering how it all happend. I dont' mean to be harsh, but she probably thinks whenever someone see's you you're the product of an affair.
Just another outlook.
Hugs,