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In the news is a report of the decision of the Tennessee Supreme Court to return a seven-year-old girl to her birth parents. There are obviously two sides to this story, but one comment really struck me:Emotional upheaval to Anna was dismissed as grounds for the Bakers to keep her. Being taken away from the only family she has really known "does not constitute the substantial harm required to prevent the parents from regaining custody," the Supreme Court ruling said.If that is not substantial harm, somebody tell me, what is?
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StacyKelly2
Now I am totally confused with this whole story. The birth parents said they wanted her and were fighting for her...then why was she not immediately given back to them...
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Actually I was talking about there are cases where the birthparents come back after an adoption - I wasn't talking about this case, but I must not have made myself clear on that. I also went back and re-read the entire story - several versions of it. It seems we are missing quite a bit of information: In 2001 there was an argument, and four months later a motion filed - but not until 2004 was a decision rendered. So my question is what happened in the interim? Also, if they placed her in temporary foster care for 90 days, then why 2 years after her birth is she still there? I didn't see any mention of a court filing prior to 2001 (could be I missed it). It just seems like a lot is missing. I definitely agree that affluence should not be a mitigating factor. But the best interest of the child NEEDS to factored in. daddysangel - I, too, hope I would listen to her. And yes, it is a very different situation here with a specific temporary placement.
I would hope I would listen to her and allow her to choose, too. However, from what I've read, I believe the court is legally right, even if it seems devestating. It's all just very heartbreaking and I feel for this child, who will be stuck in the middle no matter what happens.This is a totally weird question, but if they do decide to move back to China, will they be able to keep all of their kids? They said she has a brother and a sister. Will they be allowed to have 3 kids?
Do not pity the Bakers. They brought this on themselves.
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/02/national/02CUST.html?ei=5007&en=65e8293b8f55a694&ex=1393563600&partner=USERLAND&pagewanted=all&position=]Chinese and American Cultures Clash in Custody Battle for Girl[/url]
This story from the NY Times, published in 2004 has a very detailed explanation as to how Anna Mae ended up with the Bakers and what they've done to try to get rid of Anna Mae's biological parents.
This child should have been returned to her parents years ago. It is disgusting that this case has dragged on for so long. As for how returning to her parents will affect Anna Mae, the Bakers could have made that easier on her too by allowing her to have contact with the Hes during the custody fight.
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bajj
This is a totally weird question, but if they do decide to move back to China, will they be able to keep all of their kids? They said she has a brother and a sister. Will they be allowed to have 3 kids?
SweetMamaMe
Anna was not returned to her birthparents because, at the time, her birthfather had charges against him of a sexual nature. There is a lot more that went on with this than what it appears. The parents, the Bakers, were trying to keep Anna safe.
StacyKelly2
Why did this drag on?? 8 years. What state was this?? If the child was placed in foster care...wouldn't there be a time limit for the birth parents? This is just too scary. So since a birth parent does not sign over his/her rights that gives them the right to come forward after years and get custody back. I cannot imagine how these cases or why these cases are not given top priority!! For the child's sake. Why was the child placed in foster care to begin with? I am still amazed at the cases on this forum with contested adoptions....How hard can this be? Either you want your child and if you do you go to court and fight for him/her...in quick time. I cannot imagine any judge holding this case on and on for this amount of time. Then again our contested adoption is now 21 months and counting. Hearing this news just makes me sick to my stomach. It is just pitiful!
My question is still the same though. Emotional upheaval to Anna was dismissed as grounds for the Bakers to keep her. Being taken away from the only family she has really known "does not constitute the substantial harm required to prevent the parents from regaining custody," the Supreme Court ruling said.Regardless of who lied, or what was really meant, or who said what to whom the fact remains. For EIGHT YEARS this child has been a french-fry eating, Barbie-playing, Tennessee public school girl. Now, she is to go to live with strangers in China? And the court says this will not harm the child! I recall a case where a Muslim couple was accused of child abuse and their children were put in foster care. The couple, US citizens, fought the charges and were eventually (about 4 years later) found not guilty. However, their children were never returned because the court ruled that they had bonded with their foster parents and the youngest no longer even remembered her parents. The foster parents had also had them baptized and they were attending protestant services. The court said they were "culturally embedded" -- I remember that phrase. At what point does "what is best for the child" become more important than "which set of parents is 'right'"?
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As an adoptee, older one at that, I tried to objectivily think about how I would have felt being removed from my home to go live with bio's. Going back there, I think I would have been so very frightened and vunerable. How sad she is being put in this position to begin with. With that being said, as a teen and as an adult I KNOW i would be very angry that my adoptive parents didn't do what was right for me, that really thought of there feelings for the child, their feelings of wanting to parent and totally disregarded the child need to know and embrace their own genes.again the child has become an object of parental needs..both bio and adoptive The possesion thing is so strong in this case, the subtle disregard for the child is huge..but the rally cry is "BUT what about the child...it really isn't at all about the child its about how some of you would feel in that position. If a loving, giving, bioparent can parent they should....This all could have been voided if she were returned as soon as the bio wanted her. So now she has to endure more confusion and pain because adoptive parents fought inappropriatly. I don't know what the answer is. We bring internation kids over here that are cuturelyembedded in their own countries and we think its a good thing but rerverse it and its considered bad. The ideal would be for both sets of parents to be able to come to some understanding for the child...maybe the chinese parents need to stay here and be allowed to stay here to be able to help bring up this poor little girl. Maybe adoptive parents need to give up total custody to allow her to know her biological family and respect that where she came from. they should both be made to pay for her therapy bills as she grows. The whole thing is a huge mess and again the true needs of the child are not being met....
MamaS
I recall a case where a Muslim couple was accused of child abuse and their children were put in foster care. The couple, US citizens, fought the charges and were eventually (about 4 years later) found not guilty. However, their children were never returned because the court ruled that they had bonded with their foster parents and the youngest no longer even remembered her parents. The foster parents had also had them baptized and they were attending protestant services. The court said they were "culturally embedded" -- I remember that phrase.
At what point does "what is best for the child" become more important than "which set of parents is 'right'"?
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MamaS
My question is still the same though. Emotional upheaval to Anna was dismissed as grounds for the Bakers to keep her. Being taken away from the only family she has really known "does not constitute the substantial harm required to prevent the parents from regaining custody," the Supreme Court ruling said.
I guess it depends solely on the mindset of the judges. This was the ruling of a judge in Saskatchewan who refused to remove an infant from the adoptive parents."While blood ties are one factor, they must be considered from the point of view of the significance to the child, rather than the significance to the biological parent. Any factor, including kinship, must remain subject to the best interests of the child," the court said in its summary of the case.I wish US judges thought more about the best interest of the child.