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Sometimes it sounds to me like "bmoms" are complaining about how everyone else took their choices away. What I don't hear often is how they took their own choices away by making a mistake of getting pregnant in a situation that they couldn't make work out for themselves. It wasn't anyone elses job to make it work out for them. Then I hear complaining about how they don't like the consequences of their own actions and the expectation that someone else owes them a remedy for the suffering they have inflicted on themselves and others. Usually this is directed at their parents for "forcing" them to give up their child. Honestly, what choice did most of the parents of these young pregnant girls have?
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Daddysangel
I can understand how hard it must be for you and your wife to contemplate losing her but you are not her parents - you are her guardians - and because you did not meet the legal requirements needed to adopt her, she is still (I am presuming) legally your neice.
bromanchik
Personally I do not see that the OP even deserves a response. She has appearently made up her mind and is being inflammatory... I can't believe that anyone could be that ignorant to think her words would be taken any other way.
daddysangel
I can understand your point,but I did not feel this thread was an appropriate place to give the full details.
I just wanted to point out my views on blaming and respect.
You would have to search back in failed and contested to get the full details of our case.
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Personally I do not see that the OP even deserves a response. She has appearently made up her mind and is being inflammatory... I can't believe that anyone could be that ignorant to think her words would be taken any other way.__________________Brenda RomanchikInsight: Open Adoption Resources & SupportReply With QuoteI am disapointed that the post was not pulled.If it was about any other part of the triad, except birthparents I have to wonder if it would have been. I am stunned.
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Lonni & Quantum:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I too was raised by loving aparents, who are the only parents I've known, and they taught me about personal responsibility. Not saying the bmoms on this thread didn't believe in being responsible for their actions, but it's not fair ( imho) to expect your parents/family to help you raise your child unless they want to. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Can you imagine raising three kids, working full-time, paying a mortgage, car note and trying to live the "Middle/Upper middle class dream"- and one of your kids announces: " I'm pregnant, and I want to keep my baby", and their young ( between 14-18 years old)? That's a lot to expect from people who had nothing to do with you getting pregnant. Everyone’s way of life changes: the college fund the parents saved for the kids is gone (because they have to pay for daycare and extra health insurance); family vacations are a thing of the past because the extra money used for vacation goes towards the baby. The retirement fund (401k) the parents have is gone and so is their dream of retirement and an easy life. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]In short, your parents are obligated /responsible for raising you and your siblings not you, your siblings, and your child[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Daddy'sangel:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I think what the judge meant was if you had legally adopted your niece (years ago) you wouldn't be in the "mess" that you’re in now, and I'm truly sorry for that. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman]-Manni28[/FONT]
think there is a lot of blame on parents here because a lot of birthmoms were minors when they became pregnant. I've not heard a single bmom say 'it was my parents fault I got pregnant' . Of course (except in rape cases) we had something to do with that. There are people here whose parents DID force them to relinquish. If you've read the stories you can see that!
[FONT=Verdana]Manni28_ I am an ADOPTEE too and was raised by very nice, loving adoptive parents. But you see, my adoptive parents have a sense of "family helps family. You Manni seemed to be raised to believe "sink or swim~ you come into this world alone and you die alone" but I was raised to believe that we are all to be a "comfort and contributor" to our family relationships..To deny your family assistance is to contaminate-IMO.And yes,it does take 2 to make a baby and the Father and his family are in the family circle too, once the child is conceived and can either contribute or contaminate (yes-I read Dr. Phil's book-lol).JMO[/FONT]
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bromanchik
Let's think about his daughter. You don't think she is going to be more damaged being ripped from the only parents she has conciously known to be put with people she barely knows? "Innate connections" are not enough to reduce the trauma that would cause.
manni28
[FONT=Verdana][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Lonni & Quantum:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I too was raised by loving aparents, who are the only parents I've known, and they taught me about personal responsibility. Not saying the bmoms on this thread didn't believe in being responsible for their actions, but it's not fair ( imho) to expect your parents/family to help you raise your child unless they want to. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Can you imagine raising three kids, working full-time, paying a mortgage, car note and trying to live the "Middle/Upper middle class dream"- and one of your kids announces: " I'm pregnant, and I want to keep my baby", and their young ( between 14-18 years old)? That's a lot to expect from people who had nothing to do with you getting pregnant. Everyone’s way of life changes: the college fund the parents saved for the kids is gone (because they have to pay for daycare and extra health insurance); family vacations are a thing of the past because the extra money used for vacation goes towards the baby. The retirement fund (401k) the parents have is gone and so is their dream of retirement and an easy life. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]In short, your parents are obligated /responsible for raising you and your siblings not you, your siblings, and your child[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]Daddy'sangel:[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]I think what the judge meant was if you had legally adopted your niece (years ago) you wouldn't be in the "mess" that you’re in now, and I'm truly sorry for that. [/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman]-Manni28[/FONT]
momof4or5?
Why is there so much blaming of the parents? Why is there an underlying expectation that it is their fault that there was not financial/and or moral support if it was not available or offered. I don't think I would want to raise my child's child. I have nothing but admiration for those who do so successfully. I do think adoption is a perfectly viable option for an unplanned pregnancy.
manni28
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I too was raised by loving aparents, who are the only parents I've known, and they taught me about personal responsibility. Not saying the bmoms on this thread didn't believe in being responsible for their actions, but it's not fair ( imho) to expect your parents/family to help you raise your child unless they want to. [/FONT]
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manni28
[FONT=Verdana]Can you imagine raising three kids, working full-time, paying a mortgage, car note and trying to live the "Middle/Upper middle class dream"- and one of your kids announces: " I'm pregnant, and I want to keep my baby", and their young ( between 14-18 years old)? That's a lot to expect from people who had nothing to do with you getting pregnant. Everyones way of life changes: the college fund the parents saved for the kids is gone (because they have to pay for daycare and extra health insurance); family vacations are a thing of the past because the extra money used for vacation goes towards the baby. The retirement fund (401k) the parents have is gone and so is their dream of retirement and an easy life. [/FONT] [FONT=Verdana]In short, your parents are obligated /responsible for raising you and your siblings not you, your siblings, and your child.[/FONT]