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Another bump in the road today in trying to get our 2 month old nephew into our home. He was placed is fc for severe physical abuse and neglect.
We're trying to get a kinship placement and then get our regular foster home certification. The reason we were going kinship initially was to try to expedite the process. According to the CW they can get a home kinship certified in 2-3 wks, but traditional foster takes 6-9 months.
Anyhow, the CW has put our application on hold and cancelled our homestudy appt. She said the maternal grandparents filed for custody, and she wanted to know point-blank if we were serious about taking the baby why didn't we file for custody???
My nephews mother lives w/ her parents and per the CW that very well might drag out the maternal grandparents case for custody or get them denied. They were ironically turned down as the foster family for the baby because one of his fractured femurs likely occured at their home.
I just cannot believe they have the babies best interest at heart, but are trying to force us into going this route in order to get him in our home. What about all the stuff they put out there that they'd rather place w/ relatives if possible.......all seems like a front to me.
The CW said and I quote "we want to take it really slow w/ this case and see how it pans out. If someone wanted to apply for custody it would be preferable. Therefore, we're going to just sit on your application for right now, and see what happens the next few months". She then went on to say she'll revisit the idea again after the holidays, but of course if we wanted to go for custody........
My husband and I make a decent but modest living. I could afford the babies needs, however I do not have thousands and thousands of dollars up front to hire an attorney to fight this for us.
I grow more and more frustrated everyday w/ this, and feel pretty much hopeless. I honestly do not know where to turn next. I should mention this was the dept supervisor that told us all this. Ironically they called us again at the end of the day and left a message, but we were not home. Who know's what else now......
I wouldn't sit and wait...the CW may think you changed your mind. Let her know you are just checking to see how he's doing and that you are still requesting placement. That way they can't use the timeframe you didn't contact against you!
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Just another word of caution...you mention your BIL's delay on a visit as if it were a bad thing. Fight the baby's battle, not his. Two legs were broken. If you seem to be concerned about the BIL or mother, or too chummy with them, you only cast doubt on yourself. Two legs were broken. If I were the cw, I would be in NO hurry to subject that baby to a vist by either parent. Don't talk about the parents to the cw, good or bad. They are not your concern and if they appear to be, a good cw will drag her feet not only placement with you but perhaps visitation as well. This may be a part of the problem--two legs were broken, multiple family members were around this child, etc., and right now, fair or not, you may be viewed as one of the clan this happened in. You need to be and act like social service's ally, not the parents'. Your allegiance is to the baby and his safety, not to them in any way. I'm not saying this to be harsh, it is the reality.
Also, the parents in our case were very rarely a reliable source of information on anything, anyway. Use whatever tidbits you hear from them as leads you need to check, no more. ETA: They have little to no power in this situation, either. Don't waste time trying to hatch any plans with them or make any deals with them. It only makes you look as if you are in league with them and would probably work against you.
Please do keep moving and do something real and constructive as quickly as possible--Push them with the legal requirements to at least do the homestudy and whatever else will be needed they were supposed to do within 24 hours of removal this week so that you will be approved and ready when the word comes. Call up the chain! Get an attorney to write the agency director (not the cw) a letter saying they have to do what is needed to approve you within 24 hours--may cost you $100, but worth it. The cw is not going to help you right now. Be friendly, tell her you understand she is doing what she thinks best, you both want the child to be safe and in the best placement, and you are doing what you need to do to see that happen as quickly as possible.
If the mother is living with the grandmother, I don't see that there is a snowball's chance that grandmother will get placement unless social services decides to take a powder on what they know. If that happens, then the real stink will begin.
good luck this week, I hope there is some change in the child's favor.
I agree with Hadley. Make it an issue of your desire to protect this child from future abuse. Make sure they understand you do not accept the fact this child may go back to someone that allegedly abused him. We were very stern in the fact that we were here to protect Alexis from future harm by her mother and father. We were not relatives that wanted her to be in harms way like some of the other relatives. Our motivation for her entire case was to keep her safe from harm. I'm glad we did because now biomom (my SIL) is writing to biodad in prison about where Alexis is and that scares me. She should keep her mouth shut and protect her however hasn't followed that. She is not a safe person for Alexis to be living with and I'm so happy she's here where she's safe and secure and nobody will EVER hurt her again!! They have to go thru me and my husband!
The fact is the case is about the child's safety and you wish to keep him safe. Children deserve for us to protect them and keep them safe, not hurt them. When the parents make the wrong choices the kids get hurt and that shouldn't continue. If you fight then fight for the child's safety.
We actually have not had very much contact w/ my BIL or his girlfriend, what we know we know from my MIL. We have never talked to the CW about BIL or his girlfriend.
I appreciate the opinions, and I will continue making myself somewhat a thorn until they at least investigate our home.
cantbuymeluv
In no way are adoptive parents USUALLY baby thieves, I respect what they are doing and trying to do. BUT a foster family that would fight a SAFE & willing relative is EVIL.
There are lots of different situations out there. Not all of them are identical to yours. And there are lots and lots of reasons why it might be better for a child to stay with a foster family rather than being sent to a relative.
Please don't overstate your case, and watch your words. I found your post really offensive, and hurtful, too. There's really no need to go there.
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Eagle6,
You really, REALLY need an attorney. The longer you let this go, the harder it is going to be on the baby. Please don't take a ton of time trying to do this without an attorney. The baby will attach to the foster parents and they to him, and it will be devastating to everyone if he has to be moved.
Time is really moving fast. After a month in care, the baby is already developing deep attachments. Because breaking those bonds has been shown to cause serious psychological damage in infants, the court is going to be more and more reluctant to move the baby as time goes on.
This is no time to be in "Do it Yourself" mode. Don't waste time writing the president or whatever. Get an attorney, and deal with this in the next week. You have GOT to hurry now---too much time has gone on already!
This is just an off the wall observation from a nurses point of view, but it seems odd to me that a baby this young should have two femur fractures originating from two different days and with different types of fractures. Baby bones are very difficult to break (they typically bend) and while spiral fx can occur a simple "staight break" is even more uncommon. Also acts of violence are usually just that, an act with a begining and an end, usually a parent will seek medical treatment for a child as soon as the act is over, espessially a caterwaulling infant with a femur fx. So how did this child end up with a second fx unless the first went untreated (who allowed that infant to scream for days in pain OR does the child have a developed pain tolerance due to hx of minor fx prior to this). I would concider checking into this child's medical work up, I would look for things like a genetic panel for OSTEOGENESIS IMPERFECTA and see if any of the listed injuries were a "nursemaid's elbow" (dislocated). There is a whole host of subsidary diseases that are similar to OI that can cause young bones to be brittle and fracture easily. As I have seen abuse many times over I am not denying that it occurred nor an I naive that no parent could do this to a child (I am an RN in an ER- I know it happens and how bad it can be). This just seems a little odd to me.
Anyway, at the least, get into that court hearing on 12/15, if you have to stand right up and tell the judge what is going on in your end of the situation at least then everybody will know you are not going away.
Per the doctors reports (there were 3 different one's) that were submitted to the courts. The child had each femur w/ a spiral fracture. They state that one fracture occured 6-10 days prior to my nephew coming to the ER, and the other within 24 hours of him coming to the ER.
I have asked the CW's if all medical dx's have been ruled out, and they stated "yes".
I know this is off topic. However, we seen the baby 6 day's prior to his going to the ER. Supposedly the physician's state the 1st fracture occured prior to this. I held that baby for nearly 2hrs straight that day. He was smiling, coooing, and getting ready to do big, deep belly laughs. He showed no signs of discomfort or pain. He was his normal, happy, easy-going self. So, I do not know how accurate those reports are. I did not change him that day, so I do not know if he had any marks or anything, but I do know he showed no signs of anything being wrong by crying or fussing or anything. At least not during the time I was there.
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Don't feel too bad about not noticing, Eagle. We have a case here where a baby had something like 10 fractures, and his own pediatrician didn't notice them. Babies are remarkably resilient little creatures....
Any update on the situation? I'm thinking of you, and hoping that little guy will be with you soon. Your house is clearly a great option for him, and I hope he'll be in there and settled very soon!
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We have an appt w/ an attorney tomorrow at 3pm. He specializes in foster care situations. It took us 9 calls to find one who didn't just do "family law/custody" as their speciality. The local Bar Association was really no help in giving us referrals. Anyhow, we'll see what he says.
I also made contact w/ a "kinship foster placement advocacy group" in my state. I have a phone conference set up w/ them on Monday to discuss our situation.
I will be placing calls to our caseworker every weekday until they comply. They need to at least start this process, they have no reason to deny us, because they have not even started to look into us.
I've been trying to get a hold of the Oubudsman for our area. I've been hitting dead ends on that one too. I will continue my search for this person(s) tomorrow. Can I ask, does every county have one in a state for foster care? Some people I've spoken w/ do not seem to know what I'm talking about.
Lastly, depending on what the attorney states, I've been doing my research on obtaining a fair hearing. We will proceed w/ going to the court house to petition for this next Friday (12/5) if there is not some very significant progress on our case.
The caseworkers are really set in believing that the baby will go to the grandparents at their custody hearing. While that is okay, at least my nephew will be w/ family. I just do NOT understand, at all, how he can be placed w/ a grandparent who works out of town 4 days a week, and w/ his biological mother in the home full time. It all just seems to make this whole process senseless.
Eagle, while you're doing this, you may also want to work up the chain at DSS. Stop calling the caseworker. Call the main number, and say, "I'd like to speak to So-and-So's supervisor." Present your case to the supervisor, and be sure to get her name. Send her an email to follow up that same day. If you do not hear back in 24 hours, repeat the process, but this time, say "I'd like to speak to Supervisor's supervisor."
Lather, rinse, repeat until you reach the head honcho at DSS. Make sure you're documenting each call with an email that summarizes the conversation, and asks for a return call in 24 hours. Be sure to document the failures to return calls as well. You will need a very, very good timeline of events here, so grab a notebook and start writing every little thing down!
cantbuymeluv
In no way are adoptive parents USUALLY baby thieves, I respect what they are doing and trying to do. BUT a foster family that would fight a SAFE & willing relative is EVIL.
While this may be the case in your family's situation, I HUGELY resent the implication that because I love and want to adopt the foster children in my care I'm evil.
In my case, the "relative" I fought was an aunt by marriage only. My kids' bmom got married to a man just out of prison 10 days before she gave birth to the youngest. This man was not the baby's father, as he'd be in prison for well over a year and got out just before the marriage. I, on the other hand, was the adoptive mom to the baby's older sister and foster mom to the baby's older brother. Yet to these people, I was the evil one trying to steal their relative.
You need to remember this is a board for ALL MEMBERS of the foster and adoption world. Not just the family members seeking kinship care. I love my kids and would do whatever it took for their safety and happiness. What I will not do is have someone imply that that's a bad thing.
vegaschristina
While this may be the case in your family's situation, I HUGELY resent the implication that because I love and want to adopt the foster children in my care I'm evil.
I don't think a person is evil either for loving and wanting the best for these kids. I don't think the FP's whom faught me for our niece was evil in anyway whatsoever. They were loving her as their own and wanting her to stay with them. I don't believe what they did was right...or they made the right choices. I also don't believe my SIL made the right choices to protect my niece from harm either.
I think what the other poster meant to say is she was angry because she is a safe and qualified relative whom the FP's are fighting placement with. That she doesn't believe is right. I think saying someone is "evil" for doing that isn't the right wording either.
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I apologize for saying that this PARTICULAR foster parent that I AM dealing with, is "evil". That was not correct, and for that I am very sorry. What you read was me 'venting' my own frustrations. My intentions are NOT to offend anyone.
IN MY PARTICULAR case, I AM a qualified Physician's Assistant student, with 5 biological healthy, happy, and well taken care of children, my husband makes 6 figures and provides well for our family, and we have been approved 2 times by county and HAVE an approved adoptive home study, AND are relatives by blood, who have LIVED with this child for the first 10 months of his life while caring for him, and we have requested placement of him since he was 17 months old and FIRST taken into the system and it has been OVER a year, and the foster parents ARE pushing for their own needs to be met and HAVE fibbed or exaggerated when it came to his "behaviors" AND they have had PHYSICAL abuse happen to MY nephew in their home more than 4 times that are documented. (I capitalize not to yell but to stress the facts.;))
I am TRYING to be patient with a system that is terribley flawed and there ARE good and bad on both sides of the coin. NOT evil but selfish may be the better word here. I am human and will make mistakes, I will work on my verbage, thank you for pointing that out.
I try hard to stress that these are my issues and my opinions but as a Christian, even I will have sometimes HUGE flaws;) LOL
In no way are foster parents bad for wanting to protect a child, in no way is a foster parent bad for wanting to adopt.........but in this case......it is NOT OK for these particular foster parents to put their want for another child ahead of the child's right to his blood family who can provide and care for him. The system is at fault first, for NOT moving him ASAP.
I hope that you can see my intentions are NOT to anger or hurt anyone here, I am trying to navigate through a system that is broken and do the right things. Our situations may be very different, and in no way am I lumping all foster parents OR relatives together or even SW, there are good, better, and worse of all.
Again I apologize for any hurt feelings. I try not to read into other's posts as I read. If I did, every time I saw TPR was today or adoption finalized today.............by an adoptive family I would be angered or saddened for the relatives and birth parents (but I know that in all cases are VERY different.) There is no one size fits all here but a case by case set of rules............IF the rules are playing fair and REALLY putting the child's best interest first.
Respectfully,
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Boulderbabe
There are lots of different situations out there. Not all of them are identical to yours. And there are lots and lots of reasons why it might be better for a child to stay with a foster family rather than being sent to a relative.
Please don't overstate your case, and watch your words. I found your post really offensive, and hurtful, too. There's really no need to go there.
I have to agree. We were the "foster family" but also held kinship status in court which was equal to bio family and there was good reason for this. Blood relative was not the best thing for my daughter either.