re motherhood of man

Hello I am searching for My birth Mother who was using the Motherhood of Man agy (henderson new zealand)in 1972(my birth date). We have adoption records yet can not trace her name in any of the electoral records or birth/death records - it is almost that she did not exist... We were told that the building is no longer there. Was it common practice for birth mothers to supply fake names?? My birth Mothers name is listed as Karnie Walker.

Also, do you have a middle name? If you google both first and middle name (leaving off surname) using the NZ filter, you might be able to find a name that way. I actually found my bmother by googling her first and middle names in parentheses eg "Jane Mary" and then putting her surname outside eg Smith. Sadly for me, what came up was a cemetery record, though I do think it was better to know that at the start of the search rather than later (though the more I'm finding out about her, the harder it hits home - I'm in contact with her brothers and other brelatives). Also her first name might be Karen (when you google the name Karnie, a lot of people whose name is Karen comes up with Karnie as their nickname).

Hi Thanks for the reply! I dont have a middle name unfortunatly, i have my original birth certificate and most recently used the services of the cyf in auckland to obtaon the records from the motherhood of man. These records give a lot of detail including the fact that my mother achieved a master of arts at auckland university, that she attended st.Josephs College Napier before this - and many nice little descriptions and details of her hobbies and interests - but again we are coming to a dead end looking for her as Karnie Walker does not seem to exist - She was 1/4 maori 3/4 european. Any ideas you have will be very helpful. Thanks

Just wondered if there were any birth mothers from New Zealand out there who had their child adopted through the Motherhood of Man movement who might like to share their experiences on this thread.

Hi Barbara, I think Peter is saying they closed "Castlemaine Hospital" owned by the Motherhood of Man. I believe they then opened "Fairleigh Hospital" which was definitely open in 1964 as I was born there. Did you see the link above on an earlier post about the politician who ran the hospital in the 50s? I'm the original OP for this thread. In my own birth mothers case, she lived with a host family looking after their child (arranged for by the Motherhood of Man) before relinquishing me for adoption. She was in NZ on a working holiday and I have always got the impression that of the reasons given for relinquishment (no prospect of marriage with bfather, financial difficulties, wanting me to have a mother and father and her parents not knowing), I think the real reason was that she felt unable to tell her parents back in Australia. I do know though that she had very mixed feelings about the adoption (or so my info sheet says). I suppose I always wondered how girls who were relinquishing were treated at the hospital and whether they got to see their babies as I heard that in the early days of the Motherhood of Man, they prided themselves on telling adoptive parents that the birth mother would never get to see the child. It sounds though that by the time you gave birth in 1971, they treated you very well. Did you always plan to keep your child? Did you feel any pressure not to? I have heard that after about the mid 60s, there was a bit of an oversupply of babies so they started to turn the other way (i.e. encouraging mums to parent their babies). I was able to get in contact with the host family that my birth mother lived with and I believe they treated her well. She stayed with them 6 months before going back home (perhaps stayed that long to get herself back in shape?). Unfortunately, I can't ask her myself as she passed away at the age of 39 over 30 years ago. Though I am in reunion with my uncles and cousins (going very well), they didn't know of my existence as she never told anyone about me (as far as I know, the only person who might know is her widower who I will probably never get to meet or speak to). Perhaps if she lived longer she may have, it is hard to know. Btw you might find this link interesting, it is a film that was released in 1972.

Hi Barbara, I think Peter is saying they closed "Castlemaine Hospital" owned by the Motherhood of Man. I believe they then opened "Fairleigh Hospital" which was definitely open in 1964 as I was born there. Did you see the link above on an earlier post about the politician who ran the hospital in the 50s? I'm the original OP for this thread. In my own birth mothers case, she lived with a host family looking after their child (arranged for by the Motherhood of Man) before relinquishing me for adoption. She was in NZ on a working holiday and I have always got the impression that of the reasons given for relinquishment (no prospect of marriage with bfather, financial difficulties, wanting me to have a mother and father and her parents not knowing), I think the real reason was that she felt unable to tell her parents back in Australia. I do know though that she had very mixed feelings about the adoption (or so my info sheet says). I suppose I always wondered how girls who were relinquishing were treated at the hospital and whether they got to see their babies as I heard that in the early days of the Motherhood of Man, they prided themselves on telling adoptive parents that the birth mother would never get to see the child. It sounds though that by the time you gave birth in 1971, they treated you very well. Did you always plan to keep your child? Did you feel any pressure not to? I have heard that after about the mid 60s, there was a bit of an oversupply of babies so they started to turn the other way (i.e. encouraging mums to parent their babies). I was able to get in contact with the host family that my birth mother lived with and I believe they treated her well. She stayed with them 6 months before going back home (perhaps stayed that long to get herself back in shape?). Unfortunately, I can't ask her myself as she passed away at the age of 39 over 30 years ago. Though I am in reunion with my uncles and cousins (going very well), they didn't know of my existence as she never told anyone about me (as far as I know, the only person who might know is her widower who I will probably never get to meet or speak to). Perhaps if she lived longer she may have, it is hard to know. Btw you might find this link interesting, it is a film that was released in 1972.

Have you tried any of the schoolfriend reunion sites? I have checked this site out before. [url=http://www.oldfriends.co.nz/]OldFriends.co.nz - Find your old friends! - School Reunions - New Zealand[/url] I just had a look for you and she is not on there but her school is (with over 2000 registered) and it might be worth contacting people from the year you think she finished to see if they have heard of a Karnie Walker. I wouldn't say the actual reason why, however, they might be able to give you a heads up. Have you check the Auckland papers of the time for all Master of Arts graduates from Auckland Uni in her year of graduation to see if any of them may possibly fit (eg just under Walker)?

I didn't see this message before I responded to your 2nd message. Yes they did treat us well, it was the other girls in the home that werent very nice. I guess because of my age and I was keeping my son, had to work I seemed different to them and only ever saw them at meal times. They resented that I didn't have to do any house hold chores too (because I worked) and I spent a good deal of time sitting on my bed reading baby books after dinner. I probably didn't do myself any favours not joining them in the lounge area but felt very uncomfortable around them. The matron was kind and very funny. I did have another friend the same age as me, but had to adopt her little girl out, we remained friends for many years, although have now lost contact. I am trying to find her. My parents weren't keen on me keeping my boy, but Dad came to my rescue after he was born and insisted I bring him home. I hadn't planned that far ahead. I went back to the hostel (after his birth) and stayed there for 6 mths as I had an office job in Grey Lynn. It was an interesting time, my son doesn't know the back ground of his birth, I'd like to tell him one day, but a little afraid of what he'd think of his grandmother if I told him the truth she wanted me to adopt him out. I suppose he would understand, considering his oldest daughter is 12, not far off the age I was when I had him, once she turns 15 he'll probably faint thinking that his Mum was that age when I had him, well just turned 15. Barb

hi Cath, yes ive had a look at old friends site, didnt find much, but agree contacting some of the pople in the year may be helpful - didnt think about checking auckland paper, do they publish graduates then? Im slightly restricted as I was adopted out to a UK based family and so from England can only have a look online - are you NZ based?

Hi Thanks for the reply!I dont have a middle name unfortunatly, i have my original birth certificate and most recently used the services of the cyf in auckland to obtaon the records from the motherhood of man. These records give a lot of detail including the fact that my mother achieved a master of arts at auckland university, that she attended st.Josephs College Napier before this - and many nice little descriptions and details of her hobbies and interests - but again we are coming to a dead end looking for her as Karnie Walker does not seem to exist - She was 1/4 maori 3/4 european. Any ideas you have will be very helpful. Thanks