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My husband and I are just starting our adoption journey. Our home study is in two weeks. We are interested in adopting from Russia; however, I heard some really disturbing news today. A friend told me that her friend has adopted two children from Russia. Both of them have FAS. That friend also has a network of Russian Adoption Parents and they all received children with varying degrees of FAS. My friend said that the Russian authorities will lie about the history of the mother's alcohol abuse and that even your agency here in the US will lie about the really high odds that your child will have been exposed to alcohol during pregnancy. IS THIS TRUE? Do all children adopted from Russia have some degree of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
We had 2 different specialists in the US evaluate video/photos of our DD, and one American trained doctor in Russia look at her for an independent evaluation.
Yes, I was that paranoid. One told us to run for the hills, one said she was probably OK but he wasn't entirely sure and the other said she seemed great!
But I didn't reallly need these folks. I could see something wasn't quite right about our baby. I just wanted someone to look into a crystal ball and tell me what her future held because I wasn't sure I was up to the task.
However, when the time came to make the decision we knew we couldn't leave her there.
And we're lucky. There have been lots of issues but nothing we haven't been able to deal with and I hope it remains that way. She's bright, happy, funny and incredibly cute.
I remember how terrified I was of FAS/FAE, but having parented a child with probable FAE I can say that it hasn't been frightening at all and we have a great family life.
Sometimes you just have to roll the dice and hope for the best. I nearly scared myself into inertia over FAS and I am so glad I didn't let it prevent me from choosing Russia.
Best Wishes
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I know many, many children adopted from Russia who do not have FASD. I know some children who do.
Your chances of bringing home a child with exposure issues is higher in Russia than in any other IA situation.
Many children are on spectrum for FASD and have little to no issues. Many are greatly effected. There is no magic test to determine which is which.
If you are not open to any exposure issues, then Russia is not for you. Domestic adoption might not be either, but that's another conversation.
I very much disagree that Russian MOEs and the US agencies hide FASD from potential parents.
Russia does not even recognize the FASD diagnosis. Their attitude about drinking during pregnancy is very different from ours. They are not so much hiding the info as they don't even have it on their radar.
You really need to have a good IA doctor to evaluate your referral and determine what risk you are willing to take.
I have two children from Russia. One with no question of exposure and one who likely was exposed.
One is a gifted athlete (not by my standards but by the state competitions he consistantly wins), an A/B student, a popular and social kid with a joyful attitude and good heart.
The other is an A+ student, an amazing artist, loves to perform, sing and dance and has a remarkable memory. She's crazy and loud and lives her life in the biggest, fullest way.
You wouldn't know by their report cards, their health records or their social life which is FASD. Looking for it, you'd probably be able to tell from their photos.
IA is a leap of faith. You need to be armed with information but in the end you have to do what your heart is telling you to do.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I would not adopt from Russia TODAY if I did not think I could parent a 'special needs' child...whether that special need is FASD or some other unknown. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I posted this three years ago...things have taken a very different turn for us since then...my precious DS was diagnosed with moderate to severe polyarticular Juvenile Idiopathic (Rheumatoid) Arthritis two years ago. He is currently 7.5 years old and doing great (for a kid with JIA)...but is on a cocktail of VERY scary drugs....in OT, ST, and an SN classroom but doing great. I recently posted elsewhere about this and will start a seperate post here as well. My DD is now being treated for ADHD and grwoth issues but is overall doing very well too.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I posted this on a different website...and I am not kidding when I say there were at least 75 posts...all in agreement. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]A Surprise Special Needs Child…[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I will start with qualifying this… I love both of my children more than words could ever express, I do not regret either of my adoptions, both of my children are very special in their own unique ways, and I thank God for blessing me and my family with the experiences and knowledge gained through our two journeys to Russia and once home. I have grown in ways I never thought possible and am truly honored to call them my son and daughter. I believe most of us who are in this boat feel the same.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]But this has been something I keep meaning to talk about… as the mom of one of the above mentioned children…a surprise special needs son. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]So often we all read and most of us have said, I want a healthy child…I do not feel adopting a special needs child would be in the best interest of my family or the potential future child. Then we turn around and adopt from Russia…a country with a high rate of alcohol consumption, a high rate of true alcoholism, a high rate of poverty, a very different attitude and belief system in regard to pregnancy and raising children, a cultural bias toward orphans…a country that spends just one single penny per day to support the children we adopt. We adopt children who are from orphanages, who if nothing else suffer from passive neglect and in many cases outright abuse and neglect. Often these children were unwanted from conception, suffered prenatal abuse and neglect. These children are under stimulated, under or malnourished, have medical issues…both known and unknown...they are delayed…the list goes on and on. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]In other words…all the kids have the very real potential of being special needs. Yet, it so often goes un-talked about. It is so much easier to talk about the happy ending. But it is very important to talk this openly and honestly. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I’ll share our story now…the ‘good’ one and the ‘bad’ one. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]In February 2002 we were referred a 6 month old baby girl who was a high risk and very sick little girl…even though we had requested a healthy as young as possible baby. At that point age was very important to us as well as the fact that she had been voluntarily relinquished at birth and was already available for adoption…so she was referred to us. She was hospitalized…very tiny…very high risk and those horrible 9 pictures we got somehow won over my heart. We accepted her referral without even consulting an IA doctor…we did arrange for Dr Downing to travel from Moscow to Siberia to examine her. However, the minute she was brought into the room on our first trip…she was ours-regardless of what Dr Downing had to say the next day. He was now being used for us to try to figure out a plan of attack once home. Somehow this 11 pound almost 8 month old was not delayed but advanced; she was a survivor and more importantly a fighter. She was very ill…much more ill than we knew at the time…she had bladder, kidney and lung issues…she was malnourished and on our 2nd trip 14 weeks later had not grown or gained any weight…nothing at all. The judge in the region did not understand why we would take ‘such a sick one.’ ‘Why not let her die and pick a healthier one.’ We had to fight to be granted the adoption. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]In the end the adoption was granted and to make a very long story short…our daughter was dying at the time of her adoption. But major kidney surgery, a stint in the PICU, and some of the strongest antibiotics known to man saved our DD. And once she healed from that surgery…that little girl only moved forward. She was the easiest baby, toddler and child and until this year…showed on ill effects from that first year of life. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]So, in late 2003 when we talked about adopting again we REALLY wanted a healthy as young as possible baby…again already off the registry and voluntarily relinquished…another little girl. So in December 2003 we were referred a 4 month old who met all the criteria except one…she was a he. We had him evaluated by a top IA doctor because after our experience with DD…we really wanted to avoid having the health issues and hospitalizations since we already had a toddler at home. He was listed as ‘a low risk, happy and healthy but skinny’ baby boy by this well respected IA determined from the medicals and two videos (about 9 minutes worth) we had sent him. This child was in a great region and really had a good background…zero red flags.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I will spare the all the details…but this child was the exact opposite of what the doctor found…well he was and still is skinny. My baby boy was placed in my arms for good the day after he turned 8 months old. For the next 2.5 years we fought and finally can now say we won the attachment disorder (not attachment struggles or issues but AD) battle…and he has been home 3.5 years. The first 11 months home our son hated his father…he screamed as if he were being tortured if his Daddy came near him. In fact he screamed unless I and I alone were holding him. That first year was a living nightmare…it was hell on earth. The next year just sucked. Yes, my baby who was just 8 months old had severe struggles on the attachment front…any child can have attachment issues…even babies adopted at birth. Living with and healing an attachment disordered child sucked the life right out of me. As I have stated many times…it is like being pecked to death by a chicken…lots of little behaviors that make you nuts. It’s not the big issues that get to you; it is the constant, daily battles over and with the little things. Many days I thought ‘what have I done’, ‘why me/us’, ‘I don’t even like this child how can I ever really love him’ and many other things I am ashamed to admit. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]We found out on his first doctor’s visit here that he has Nystagmus (an eye condition that typically causes the children to be legally blind…with no cure or treatment), he was hospitalized in the PICU for a week 10 days after coming home, he was very sick the first 23 months home…had several surgeries…literally was at the doctor’s office several times per month…didn’t sleep through the night until he was home 23 months. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]He is now 4.25 and is labeled significantly developmentally delayed… has severe speech impairment…and he has sensory processing issues as well…all of which took over a year of fighting to finally get the right diagnoses. We do not know the full story on his vision but he is able to function in a normal sized-well lit room and he has very poor night vision…who knows how that will impact his life as he ages. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]He is in a special needs pre-K right now…6 hours per day…5 days per week. Plus additional speech and occupational therapies as well as some visits to the psychologist earlier this year. He will not be able to enter a mainstream kindergarten next year…but I thank God that our school district has a great special needs program…something the vast majority of families have to fight tooth and nail for or pay out of pocket for. However due to our financial situation I also don’t know how long we can keep him in this school and thus this great program. In our huge school district…this one single school is the only one that has this specific program that is actually helping him.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]The impact of this has been devastating to every other aspect of our lives…my DD has suffered immensely, my health has been damaged by 2 years of sleep deprivation, our finances took huge hits due to my son’s inability to be in day care (and thus my inability to earn any income) and the out of pocket costs we have incurred trying to help heal him, and finally my marriage is beginning to look as if it may not survive...[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I worry about his future, a lot. I worry that we have not gotten to the bottom of his issues…I worry that the next diagnosis will be the dreaded alcohol related one…FAS/FAE/ARND/ARDD or whatever other group of letters. I was and actually still am able to look at my now 4 year old and say everything will be OK…but OK has taken on a whole new meaning now. I know that my son will have a different ‘normal’ than most kids…I know different is OK but some days I don’t want to have to remind myself of that. I just want to be normal, not for me…but for him. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Usually I am OK with this twist of fate…but some days, like today, I am simply angry. Why did it have to be me, why our family, *why our son*? Why does my child continue to have impulsivity issues? Why do I get a knot in my stomach every day when I open his folder from school to see what today was like? Why do I have to know all about IEP’s, attachment disorder, sensory integration, fetal alcohol issues? Some days are still so difficult and I often wonder when will it ever get better? Or worse yet, what if it never gets better…what if these are the best days right now?[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Of course, after typing all this…I look up at a picture of my little boy and see his quirky, happy, silly smile, his beautiful blue eyes full of love and happiness, and my heart aches to get home and hug him again. My little guy has overcome more in his 4 years of life than most people face in a lifetime…and you know what he is happy, he is loving, he is my son and I am his mama. I get his hugs, his kisses…I get to admire his strength and perseverance…to see what it truly means to enjoy life. Yes, it was a surprise to suddenly be thrust into this role…but I have learned so much. My special son has taught me so much about life…I appreciate so many simple things that before him I honestly took for granted. I have learned that a hard earned giggle was worth 500 sleepless nights…that the river of tears we both cried would suddenly be forgotten the first time he told me he loved me…that the hands that once bruised and bloodied me would soon be replaced by the gentle strokes of love and my heart would melt at his touch…the eyes that once avoided mine would suddenly look deeply into mine for approval. I have learned that every battle will be won…we may not have the victory we initially desired but we will find a way not to lose. I have learned that being a mom to a special needs child, while very difficult at times is truly a labor of love. The harder we fight for each success the more we savor the victory. The further we sink into temporary despair the higher we get to soar in joy. That the hundreds of days that I never thought we would make it through are now replaced with time passing too quickly when we are together. That the baby I struggled to even like fills my heart with more love than I ever thought was possible.[/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]Adopting a special needs child was never my intention…it is certainly not right for every family…but every family that adopts a child with so many unknowns needs to be prepared for the very real possibility that their ‘healthy as possible child’ will in actuality be a very special child…whose needs are above and beyond the norm. That different really is OK. It is just different. [/FONT]
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]International adoption is as Forest Gump once said…”[/FONT][FONT=Comic Sans MS] Life is like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get.”[/FONT]
Angelkisses - I think your answer I would not adopt from Russia TODAY if I did not think I could parent a 'special needs' child...whether that special need is FASD or some other unknown. is really the crux of this conversation.
I have to say I hate hearing people say that all kids from EE countries are FASD. Its simply not true. But its important for people to understand that whether or not their child has exposure issues, adopting from Russia is a risk.
If I were adopting today I would assume that any child I brought home would have special needs. I do believe that is more the case with Russia than with many of the other countries.
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We have two Russian-born sons. Our oldest has a minor orthopedic issue. Our youngest has ADHD. Neither is FAE/FAS. Both are devastatingly handsome, resiliently healthy (3rd and 7th grades and never missed a day of school), truly compassionate and exceptionally intelligent. Of course, the same could be said of any child born anywhere under any circumstances. Educate yourself, know what's right for your family and trust your heart.
[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I don't think we (us old timers) can compare our kids to the kids who are currently being adopted from Russian orphanages. Much has changed since many of us adopted way back when. I adopted in 2002 and 2004 and I know it's changed...the referrals take so much longer...the process is much longer and vastly different...there are fewer children available for IA adoption...etc. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS]In 2002...we applied to our agency in mid January...had a referral in two weeks...turned her down and got DD's referral two weeks after that. We traveled to meet her at the end of March 2002...she was just shy of 7 months old. We had a 'long' wait between trips and adopted her on July 2nd 2002...the day before she turned 11 months old. We had our 10 days waived and were home with her on July 10th I believe. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS]For DS...we mentioned in passing at a post placement visit for DD in October 2003 that we might want to adopt again...we did nothing paperwork wise and had a refferal in early December 2003. We hadn't even paid them a dime. We adopted DS the day after he turned 8 months old in March 2004. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS]That just doesn't happen any more...especially adopting younger babies. The kids aren't as healthy, in general, and they are older in many cases. They spend more time in the institutional setting just based on the length of the process (and the now typical three trips.) [/FONT]
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[FONT=Comic Sans MS]I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to this even today...but if I were starting the process today (oh how I wish) I would 'prepare for the worst and pray for the best.'[/FONT]
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That's true. Russia has put much effor to foster parent system, nowadays foster parents get approximately 150 euros every month. I don't know how much this is in dollars, maybe 200? This is big money especially in country side, and this is why there is more and more foster parents in Russia. And if child gets foster parents he/she is not free for adoption.
I have girl, and before I was told that you just can't get heathy girl, because girls are so wanted and healthy girls always get parents from Russia. Here also sometimes in news idea that international adoptions will end in future from Russia, because less and less children and Finland's own Save the children office in Russia is expensive and heavy (in Finland you can adopt from Russia only with Save the children).
Well, I have girl when I was almoust sure that I will get quit old boy :) My daughter was only 2,5 years which is really young, she was the youngest child from Russia to Finland in that year (usually Finnish people adopt children who are almoust school age, in Finland school starts when you are 7). My papers were in Russia almoust 2 years before refferal.
My daughter has fas, she is now in kindergarden and she has own personal adult for her. She is doing fine and is my sunshine, but I admit life is really hard sometimes with her. I knew she has alcohol and heroin backround, but I'm thankful that I didn't know how difficult things can be. If I had knewn I probably would have said no to her, and idea of life without her is nightmare.
You have gotten excellent responses. Parenting does not come with any guarantees, whether bio or through IA or domestic adoption or fostering. I can tell you we know almost 20 children from DDs orphanage and none have FAS. All are healthy and thriving. Some have had health issues. Of the other Russian children we know, only a few are FAS, many have some other health issues, I know two Russian kids with RAD. All are doing well in their loving forever homes. We know three China families with very sick little girls and two from China with servre RAD. Yes, the probablility is higher from Russia. But there are issues from anyplace, pick one.
I can aslo tell you my neighbor's bio child is in a wheelchair, as is my cousin, who is now a District Attorney. One of my best friend's child is dyslexic, my niece is ADHD. My adopted newphew was a full on drug baby, struggles in school. You never know.
What I know is anyone here will tell you they would not dream of life without their children they have now. My dd was adotped at 18 mos, birthmom had no prenatal care, not sure about drinking. She is in kindy and doing first and second grade work, is star soccer player, speaks perfect Spanish, and full of a love for life I never knew until she came home. She has broken my jewelry, my computer and stained the carpeting.....ugh! She is the most amazing person I know. Was I scared of FAS..yup! FAS and everything else..... Do your homework, pick an GOOD agency, follow your heart. You will have the child you were meant to parent. Good luck!!!
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Yes, FAS/FAE is scary. No doubt. But... as others have said, many come home without any signs/symptoms of either. My son was adopted way back when in 2000. We had very little info on bio parents. He does not have it.
He does have ADHD and Tourettes Syndrome. Is medicated for the ADHD. Is super compassionate, artisticly gifted (so says the compitions that he has won), super intelligant, funny and handsome!
If God wants you to parent a fas/fae child, then it is meant to be. Search your soul and go with your heart. Just because your child may be from Russia does not mean he will have it.
It is all about a leap of faith!
Hi there! Our son does exhibit FAS-type issues, however our daughter, adopted at the same time has none. I must say, Russia was relatively honest with us about our son's birthmother's activities so I don't believe they intentionally lie about these things in all instances. I think agency has a lot to do with the information you get and its validity, as does the region they are adopted from and the honesty of the MOE/courts/orphanage directors in that region.
hey guys long time no see, my girlie is FASD and I new it when we adopted her, she has her corky side but I would not change her at all. We are hoping to adopt someday from the Ukraine and we are choosing to adopt a girlie with FASD. Its all about what you can handle as a parent.
Hope to pop in more often
Kimberley
Khruza -- after reading the comments, what did you decide to do?
Thank you.
- Dan
Khruza
My husband and I are just starting our adoption journey. Our home study is in two weeks. We are interested in adopting from Russia; however, I heard some really disturbing news today. A friend told me that her friend has adopted two children from Russia. Both of them have FAS. That friend also has a network of Russian Adoption Parents and they all received children with varying degrees of FAS. My friend said that the Russian authorities will lie about the history of the mother's alcohol abuse and that even your agency here in the US will lie about the really high odds that your child will have been exposed to alcohol during pregnancy. IS THIS TRUE? Do all children adopted from Russia have some degree of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?
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All? no
Many? yes
Most? More than half? maybe...
Often symptoms of FAS and ADHD are similar. And, there are other issues to consider as well--not least early trauma and neglect.
But, no matter what, my daughter is the light of my life.
As you know, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome means something very specific. Fetal Alcohol EFFECTS is a vague concept. Anyone whose mother consumed alcohol during pregnancy will have "effects." They can vary from negligible to obvious.
FAS will certainly be more common in Russia, especially in the Children's Homes, than you're used to. But you can look at a child and immediately know if they suffer from FAS.
As for "Effects": Alcoholism is rampant in Russia, and the vast majority of the kids in Children's Homes will have been exposed to a lot of alcohol before birth. You can assume there will be SOME effects. Usually nothing much. My own daughters (13 and 9 at adoption) have some issues that are probably alcohol-related. Especially my younger daughter, who is very intelligent and learns quickly, but has serious memory issues. ("Airhead" is the best word to describe it.) But it's not debilitating in either case.
"Your results may vary", as they say. If you adopt an older kid (older than 2 or 3 years) your bigger worry will be Reactive Attachment Disorder. That is a NIGHTMARE. Seek professional assessment EARLY, and jump on it as soon as possible. The older they get the less likely that any kind of intervention will help.
I know this is too late to answer YOUR question, but others will be interested I'm sure. Russia seems pretty much closed now, but Ukraine is practically the same thing.