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My husband and I are fairly new in the adoption arena and we have a very close friend who lives a few houses down from us that is from the Philliphines and she is married to an American man and they have a beautiful biological daughter....
She and I have grown close and she tells me that the Philliphines is a very poor country and girls and woman are always looking for someone to take their babies and care for them and adopt them...
I begged her to ask her sister who still lives in the Philliphines if she could maybe help us since she said that they are always having woman come up to them with their babies!!!!!
We spoke on the phone to her sister and then the next day I was having a very, very bad day questioning whether or not God wanted us to adopt and I prayed and I begged and I asked God that if He wanted me to be a mother and to adopt that He had to show me something very specific....in black and white, not just a feeling I may have in my heart but a definite sign from Him above....
The NEXT MORNING, my friend was at our front door telling us a cousin's friend had come to her sister in the Philliphines and was 9 months pregnant and wanted someone to adopt her baby....she told the birthmother that there was an American couple who wanted to adopt from the Philliphines that were good friends with her sister here in the United States and the birthmother was very, very happy and already agreed in writing to relinquish the rights to her baby so her baby could come to America....
The sister let the birthmother stay in her house since her parents didn't want anything to do with her and then she brought the birthmother to the doctor and found that she was already starting labor and in just one short day she delivered a beautiful baby girl.....and because she wanted to help the birthmother and baby and us, she started the process with the birthmother for us!!!
We were so overwhelmed with her kindness towards us and the birthmother, we agreed to pay for the birthmother's hospitalization because the birthmother had no money, even though we didn't even know if we could even adopt this baby...we just felt it was the right thing to do since no one had any money to pay for the hospital and for the birthmother to leave and her baby to leave the hospital....
Typically, she would have given birth at home with a mid-wife because people are so poor there, but the sister wanted to take her to the doctor for a check up and they found she was already in labor so they kept her in the hospital....
Both mother and baby are doing well...at this point we didn't even know if the Philliphine law would allow us to adopt because it had just been a mere 48 hours since the first and only conversation we had about adopting from the Philliphines so I thought I had time to investigate it, but God has His own timing and just like how miraculous God is, He brought us a baby even before we were ready with the paperwork...
I'm working with an attorney here in Pasco County and an Attorney in the Philliphines who advised me this morning that this private "pre-identified child" adoption is possible as long as we obtain American Homestudy and the normal paperwork....
My attorney here agreed that our case in quite novel and unique and we are QUICKLY trying to now do everything for our Brianna to come home....
The birthmother is still very happy that her daughter will have a better life in America and we are so blessed because my friend's family in the Philliphines have agreed to take care of baby Brianna until the adoption is final....We are so blessed to know that our baby is going to be well taken care of and the Philliphine attorney believes we will be in the Philliphines by the 3rd or 4th week of June to present our pleadings to the court.....right around my birthday and Father's Day!!!!!
Then our attorney in the Philliphines has agreed to start the adoption process for us even though we haven't paid him yet because of the time difference and it being the weekend...no overnight mail can be initiated until Monday...He is truly a godsend too!!!! He advised us that by Monday, the birthmother has agreed again to relinquish her parental rights and he can appoint us as Baby Brianna's legal guardians because the father is unknown!!!!
Upon presenting ourselves to the courts in the Philliphines, they do not render a decision that day, it can take up to 30 days, but sometimes if they feel good about a case, our attorney told us they will grant the adoptive parents the priviledge of taking the baby home then....
Brianna was born on May 3 and God willing we'll be able to take her home just next month, the end of the month......
We then asked the attorney in the Philliphines about the possibility of adopting 2 children during this same process and he said that was fine, as long as we met the requirements...we could use the same homestudy and everything and both hearings would be the same day...the Philliphines have no problem that they would not even be biological siblings....
So, now we are asking her sister to find Brianna a brother and hopefully we'll be coming home with both Brianna and a brother in June......where our attorney here is overseeing the United States portion as well as making sure this international attorney is thorough and correct....
I did want to mention I tried Jeanne Tate's office, and they advised us they could not help us....I can't quite remember, everything's been such a whirlwind, I think because we found the birthmother....I can't quite remember...
But, if anyone would like information about this in more detail as to whom we're using you may email us...please just mention adoption forums in the subject so we know to open the email.
I did tell both of our attorneys that if this goes through, we kinda feel as if we're a test case here, but if this goes through which everyone so far feels that legally it can....I told them that I know of alot of women that are already finished with their paperwork just waiting for babies here in Florida...and here the Philliphines has so many....I think the key is to catch the situation before the baby becomes "abandoned" or "orphaned"....as long as the birthmother requests you, then the process is different than for an orphaned child....from what I understand with orphaned children in the Philliphines from what I read on the Embassy website, orphaned children you cannot select the sex and the process is longer and the children are older when they are able to be adopted...
But with private adoption, the baby is typically younger, and you know the sex and both parties agree which is incredible....it's just unbelieveable that there are so many babies over there with the birthmothers begging for help and would be so happy to have their children grow up over here....definitely not having to wait 1 or 2 years to adopt a child, just incredible....I'm speechless and in shock over all of this...trying to remain calm and focused and not be too, too excited yet, while still keeping my faith.....
Maybe God allowed this to happen to us because He knew we then in turn would do more to help the remaining mothers and babies left over there that are wanting and needing help...maybe this is our mission, I don't know....I could definitely see where it could lead to that...that's how America World Adoption Agency started...one christian couple adopted from China and saw so many other little girls left behind and now AWAA is helping hundreds and hundreds of families.....
This week will be a critical week and then we should know exactly yes or no, but so far everything is pointing to yes....which again is so beautiful because I've waited so long to be a mother and here we should know just in time for Mother's Day......
Blessings to all and please keep us in your prayers as we will keep you in ours....and again, please feel free to email us...we would love to help anyone else....
God Bless,
Melody and Peter
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What a great story! There is a lot to be said for HIS timing.
Our God is truly an awesome GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will keep you in my prayers.
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Thank you for your kind words....yes, God is the true God of mercy and great compassion and last night while speaking with her sister in the Philliphines, (she was just getting ready to leave for the hospital to bring the birthmother and baby Brianna home) she told me that the attorney had already gone to the hospital to visit with the birthmother and there in the hospital she had again agreed, very happily and willingly agreed to have us adopt her baby....truly very happy for her baby daughter.....
The sister told us that the birthmother's parents are happy as well now...very, very happy and the ironic thing is, this birthmother lives as far away as Florida where we are, to Arizona! But she found herself all the way at the sisters, where she has a very good friend who lives close to the cousin...so in other words, she's not even from that region!!!!
I was crying alot on the phone this morning with the sister, because I wanted her to really portray to the birthmother how much we cared about her as a person first and what she has done for her baby and for us....I asked the sister to ask the birthmother to write a letter to us telling us what she would like baby Brianna to know about her....I was leaving this up to the birthmother totally....did she want Brianna to know who she was and who her Grandparents are and did she want us to send her pictures and could we tell Brianna how wonderful her birthmother is.....she had already signed all papers and we didn't need to do anything else, especially this if we didn't want to, this was something that wasn't even a stipulation of the adoption....the adoption, the termination of parental rights had already been signed....we could have kept it as a "closed" adoption...
It saddened me deeply though to know that the birthmother never held Brianna nor did she see her face....I thought, how sad and how truly difficult this must be for her....to give birth to a beautiful baby girl and give her up...she obviously has overwhelming feelings because I guess she knew if she held her and saw her beautiful face that God had created, it would be too much for her heart to bear...
I wanted to give the birthmother the opportunity to even write Brianna a letter now so someday when she is old enough she will have something from her mother to have forever explaining everything....I truly want Brianna to know her mother and to know that this was her mother's true wishes for her and that she was very happy for her....
That part of the conversation was so overwhelming, I was crying so much I couldn't even speak the words....for I always used to be afraid of the birthmother, but God, God had given me such a peace about her and how, for her and my daughter's sake, Brianna needed to know what she deserved to know about her birthmother and her heritage....
It's incredible that I'm the one pushing for this...that I'm sitting here as a woman, not as an adoptive mother, but as a woman who has such great understanding and compassion towards this young mother, begging her to do whatever she feels she needs to do without any concern for us because that's not what's important now.....
Then the sister said the birthmother said that if we would like to meet her when we go to the Philliphines, that we could...we could go to her region and meet her and her parents and her other child, a son she already has....to meet Brianna's older brother....
They are such a gracious, respectful, humble, trusting people over there....I'm shocked that she has given us the opportunity to do that...for us!!! Not her demand, but for us!!!!
Words cannot describe the respect and love and admiration I'm feeling.....
I think we should go meet them....out of respect for what she has done for Brianna and us and to try to somehow, someway show the amount of overwhelming love and care we have for her....
It's crazy, I'm at the point where, I would probably even take the birthmother back with us if she wanted to go, because she is looking for a better life herself, a life out of poverty....that's the kind of people my husband and I are....
If anyone has any thoughts regarding us going to meet the birthmother, we would truly like to hear them...for we are praying for God's guidance regarding that....my only concern would be that in her meeting us, we would cause her pain....maybe more pain than what she is already feeling....and I don't want that to happen...
The beautiful thing is, everyone, everyone, attorneys included, are all christians and this is a miracle the way this has happened...the way God has orchestrated this and has brought everyone together so this can happen with such great precision and care and concern for each other...
It is incredible to feel the depth of love and trust everyone has for each other....and how we are all putting each other first, instead of ourselves...I never could have imagined a more beautiful scenario...
She really is pushing for us to adopt her daughter and we are really pushing for her to do what she wants to do and what she needs to do to help herself through this...
Not us, pushing her into this decision or forcing her to make a choice that is causing her anguish....
She came to us!!!! Desperately wanting us, and we never even had to write a birthmother letter or anything....trying to convince someone to choose us! She chose us even before we even knew of her!!!
This is truly a beautiful experience that we never could have fathomed in our wildest dreams....we do know that we had put this entirely in the hands of God, I mean, we weren't even going to adopt unless God wanted us to!!! It's ALWAYS been about His will, not ours....and in submitting to Him, he has, like the bible says, blessed us exceedingly and abundantly above all that we could have ever imagined!!!
Blessings to everyone and thank you for letting us share our story and for sharing your thoughts with us....
God's richests blessings to you.
Melody and Peter
Dear Melody and Peter,
Could you please give me some information on how you did this adoption. The attorney's being used would work with other couples? What a wonderful story. I wish you all the blessings for your new daughter. I have three daughters from India. Adoption is a wonderful thing. Karen gkasche@usachoice.net
The Philliphine attorney that we're using is a Mr. Rey Bernardo who seems to be a very kind, patient, knowledgeable man who actually did all this work so far without even a retainer from us yet since everything happened so fast and it was the weekend and no one could overnight any monies or anything.
I think what helped was the fact that my Philliphines friend's sister, went to HIM FIRST, so MAYBE he feels comfortable in having that Philliphine contact, that we weren't just calling him out of the blue, over here from America...she basically was able to vouch for us our honesty and integrity...
I'm hoping that he will stay true to his word (since I haven't gotten his contract yet)...his fee is not outrageous, should be around just $4,000 or so is what he told me and he does know that I have an American attorney here who is supposed to oversee everything he does to make sure that it looks good....
Believe it or not I only have this man's HOME NUMBER since we've only spoken over the weekend, again, an incredible show of faith on his part... I will have his office number in just a day or two for you, okay? The challenge is, is that the Philliphines are 12 hours ahead of us, it's easy to remember, if it's 1:00 p.m. here, it's 1:00 a.m. THE NEXT DAY there...easy to remember, but very hard in terms of communicating back and forth...we typically are talking during the night, here American nighttime...so be prepared to stay up late and all night to make these phone calls happen!!
Oh and another thing, I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND you call your phone company and set up a plan for the Philliphines because the first phone call I made was so quick and I thought, oh how much money could it be, then later I called the phone company to request a rate plan and they told me my first phone call cost me $180 without the plan.....I told them this was regarding an adoption and they were kind enough to back date the plan to be retroactive to that date, so that phone call only cost me about $15 or $18 or $20 then for the hour or whatever we first spoke!!!
The American Attorney I'm using is a very kind, christian woman who I feel very comfortable with...she's going to set up my homestudy and everything for us....
Her name is Melissa Tartaglia. She actually goes by the name of "Mel" as do I, again, so weird all the coincidences and everything!!! Her fee is $150 per hour and I don't know how many hours she is expecting to work on this, but I'm hoping again only maybe no more than $4,000....I have already signed a contract with her...she requested it before she proceeded any farther with us though...she was kind enough to take the time to speak with me for quite a while first without charging us to make sure that this could be done first...like she said, she didn't want us paying her for something she couldn't do....
We're not completely home free though...this week will be a critical week but they both are confident from what they know, they are confident that this is legal and attainable!!! At least this is what the Philliphine attorney, Mr. Bernardo is saying....not a problem...this is a normal situation...this is identified as a private adoption already with a "pre-identified" child so it is handled differently than dealing with an orphanage or an orphaned child...
There is a difference in the way the adoption process works if it's a pre-identified child or an orphaned child...I think what it is is that there has to be more time taken and given to make sure the child is truly orphaned and that no one will come back looking for the child...whereas here, they already HAVE the mother's approval and she already was willing to terminate her parental rights and she has already....he already went to the hospital and got that, as well as her requesting us to adopt the child!
Best of blessings to you...please tell these attorneys you got their number from me, okay?
What helped us out TREMENDOUSLY was the fact that we had a birthmother already and then the baby made it easier, no waiting, no nervous time waiting if the birthmother would change her mind (again incredible timing!), so all the attorneys have to do is make it legal...I don't think either one of them actually are agencies that find your child...that's something you can ask them...
But no, Melissa does not have an agency over there, I know that for a fact, but she is willing to do this international adoption for us!!!
But, from what I can tell, and from how quickly this happened for us, my friends family, who are very reputable over there always know of birthmothers--which is of course, how we got ours!!!
So again, don't be discouraged that they may not be an agency who finds the birthmothers, because that can be done fairly easily and probably ALOT CHEAPER THIS WAY as opposed to them finding you one...
I would be happy to communicate to the sister anyone else requesting assistance in finding a birthmother......I think at this point, it is prudent to see how ours works out first, if you want.....we believe that it will, but, just so that everyone feels comfortable and KNOWS exactly what needs to be done and how it's done...waiting just a month or two for ours to complete, might give you a better sense of peace about this Philliphine process....
If there's anything else you need, please feel free to write...I'll keep you posted on exactly how things are going...we're not out of the woods yet, but we're pretty much rounding 2nd base, heading to 3rd and real close to home!!!!
God brought us this far and I do believe He will provide all the way to the end until Brianna is home with us here in America!
Blessings always,
Melody :)
Melody--I knew this would happen for you!! I am SOO excited for you and your husband! This is great news! Please keep us posted on how things are going. Congratulations!:D S Pete
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We just wanted to let everyone know to not use either Mr. Reynaldo Bernardo in the Philippines or Mel Tartaglia in Holiday, Florida....
Mr. Bernardo just took our money and ran....
and twice Mel Tartaglia has withdrawn from helping us, every month she tells us she's quitting our case and she leaves us hanging. This month she said she's too busy to represent us anymore, even though I have her contract which states she would assist us to the end of this adoption...
She does not have experience with Philippine adoptions and they BOTH have left us hanging with no final answers still.....and they both professed to be christians!
Things do not look good but we are praying that God's will be done in little Brianna's life....I know she will have a wonderful, blessed, protected life under's God's protective wing.....
We love you Brianna, we always will.....
Your first mommy and daddy,
Melody and Peter
Melody--Bless your heart!!! I am SO SORRY!!! You keep praying girl and God WILL bless you!!! You are truly in my prayers and so is Brianna!!! Blessings, :D S Pete
I am so sorry for your disappointing news! Have you considered contacting an agency that has offices in the Philipines?? Holt International is a good one! They may allow you to go through their program specifically for this child!
[url]www.holtintl.org[/url]
Thank you both so much for your encouraging words....I really wanted to just delete my entire post so people wouldn't even have to read it anymore....but more importantly, I really wanted to warn people about the unbelieveable chaos and heartbreak that is just waiting for people like us out there wanting to adopt...
It's so tragic the way this has all unfolded so far....our Brianna is now 3 months old and now we have new Philippine counsel that is trying to speak with the ICAB directly letting them know how we were misled from day one from counsel within their own country, Mr. Reynaldo Bernardo! We have his contract which states that this inter-country adoption is legal and allowable....WE WERE THE ONES WHO BROUGHT IT TO HIS ATTENTION ABOUT THE ICAB AND THEN HE VANISHED!!!!!!
I've spoken with many of the adoption agencies here in the states that the Philippines work with and they won't touch it because they KNOW the Philippines doesn't work with PRE-IDENTIFIED children....
Two different people from two different agencies (one being from Wide Horizons) told me about the horrors they hear about EVERY WEEK from people just like us....
Adoptive parents have actually gone over there, had their adoption case tried in front of the Philippine courts, have the PHILIPPINE COURTS APPROVE THEIR INTER-COUNTRY ADOPTIONS, only to have the poor new adoptive parents go to the Embassy where their newly adopted children ARE DENIED PASSPORTS AND VISAS!!!
This is exactly the route Mr. Bernardo was going to have us go through--their court system!!!!
I cannot even fathom how they allow such a thing---their attorneys and judges approve this knowing full darn well they're not going to be granted visa's and passports!!! Can you imagine standing there in this foreign country (which has terrorism right there in Manilla!!! Manilla again was surrounded by terrorists a few weeks ago demanding corrupt government officials resign--actually not such a bad idea come to think of it, asking for some of those people's resignations who allow this)
Can you imagine standing there in this foreign country and NOT be able to leave with your newly adopted baby!!! That is a crime!!!
DOMESTIC ADOPTIONS are done through their court system but INTER-COUNTRY adoptions are ALL APPROVED THROUGH THEIR ICAB--THE INTERCOUNTRY ADOPTION BOARD!!! The Embassy asks for the papers from the ICAB and if you have no papers the adoption is illegal and illegal adoptions can result in imprisonment up to 6 YEARS IN PRISON!!! This is truly a nightmare!!! I am terrified to go over there....not knowing whether or not I'll be imprisoned because of something MY ATTORNEY ALLOWED!
We are awaiting our answer from our new attorneys--seeing what the ICAB tells them directly...praying they will understand the bond we have with this child already and how it is in this child's best interest to be matched with us....please God I pray!
It is just crazy to know that we qualify to adopt from their country BUT THEY JUST WON'T ALLOW US TO HAVE BRIANNA. I cannot even allow myself to think about how they will rip Brianna out of the arms of people that love her over there who are taking such good care of her and throw her in an orphanage and then wait and then give her to God knows who and when and where...
You would think they would realize the love we have for THIS CHILD and how her future is already planned for with wonderful christian schools and college and more love than any child could ever hope for surrounded by us and MANY, MANY FILIPINO friends of ours....
Everything was perfect....it makes no sense to shatter so many peoples lives like this....
Don't they realize they're dealing with people's LIVES, babies LIVES. If they really want what's best for the baby, they will give the baby to the families that have loved them from day one, who have supported them financially and emotionally all this time...
Please everyone, we need your prayers....we need to pray for God's favor and that this mountain be moved! Pray for favor for us and that we are allowed to adopt our little Briannita.....
Thank you God that your perfect will, will be done.
In Jesus name,
Melody
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Melody:
First I think you need a *HUG*. Im passing the kleenex too, Im sure you need it about now.
This is absolutly AWFUL that this happened. There isnt anything I can do, but show my support. Keep researching and trying...you just never know when you will email the right person, or find the right web site.
Just dont give up hope. Brianna is lucky to have you on her side!