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By Adele Horin
February 26, 2005
The stories told by mothers who gave their children up for adoption are unbearably painful. For decades no one wanted to listen to these "relinquishing" mothers who fell pregnant in the 1950s, '60s and '70s. They were often sent away from home, gave birth in cruel circumstances and then were expected to act as if nothing had happened.
I have been re-reading some of their stories, given in testimony to inquiries such as the 1992 NSW Law Reform Commission review of the Adoption Act, and the 2000 inquiry by the social issues committee of the NSW Legislative Council into adoption practice between 1950 and 1998. It is impossible not to feel the women's suffering. Given no access to abortion, these young women and girls were told adoption would end the trauma for them, and then discovered it was only the beginning.
In the afterglow of Tony Abbott's re-union with his son, Daniel O'Connor, it would be easy to imagine that adoption is a win/win situation in such cases. It would be easy for anti-abortion campaigners to use the story to further their cause. One such campaigner, Melinda Tankard Reist, has likened Daniel to "the one that got away", a "silent living rebuke of abortion"
Behind conservative opposition to abortion lies the none-too-subtle demand that pregnant girls who don't want a baby should give up their infant to deserving infertile couples. The latest to link the two issues is the NSW Liberal backbencher Danna Vale, who wants a national inquiry into abortion, and says it's "heartbreaking" how difficult it is for childless couples to adopt.
Surrendering a child for adoption is not a neat alternative to abortion. We have learnt nothing from recent history if society once again puts pressure on pregnant young women to take the adoption route by making abortions less accessible. What happened to thousands of relinquishing mothers cannot be ignored or dismissed. They experienced not the promised "clean break" but enduring pain.
"I believe nobody can understand the years of guilt and torment a birth mother goes through as she literally pines for her lost child," a woman told the NSW Law Reform Commission.
Another said: " 'Go home and forget,' they said. In my heart I never gave my baby away. She was with me always - in my thoughts and dreams and in my heart ... so many questions, so much heartache, grief and guilt."
Many women felt betrayed by a society that told them to give their children away for their own good, and then made them feel ashamed of it afterwards.
"It is not surprising," writes Evelyn Robinson, a relinquishing mother turned counsellor, "that so many of them come to feel that they have never quite regained their equilibrium."
It may be that the history of this period is written by the women who suffered, and those who regained inner peace stay silent.
An influential independent study of Australian relinquishing mothers, done in 1984, found that of 213 women interviewed, some had made an adjustment but many others suffered devastating effects. The women had not been able to put their problems behind them.
And when Sarah Armstrong of the Post-Adoption Resource Centre cold-calls relinquishing mothers on behalf of the adult children who are looking for them, she finds that under the most accomplished surface is searing pain.
"Theirs is not a matter of wondering what the child's hobby may be; it's gut-wrenching stuff." And reunions with an adult child, for all the excitement, and questions put to rest, do not necessarily end a mother's grieving for the baby she never knew.
These women gave birth in hypocritical times and suffered a loss that could not be openly acknowledged. In their silent grief, they found little support. Today it would be different in some respects. There would be counselling and none of the overt cruelties of the past. No one would put a pillow over a woman's face to hide the sight of her newborn, for example. But there would still remain the unforgettable experience of pregnancy and birth, the child in the world. And the trauma of giving that wriggling, wrinkled bundle away.
It is little wonder that as the 1970s ended and women could avail themselves of either an abortion, the single parent pension or adoption, the number of children relinquished for adoptions fell dramatically.
Tankard Reist argues that some women suffer similar grief after abortions. I have no reason to doubt that. With an estimated 2000 terminations a week, it is probable some women have profound regrets, especially if they are coerced. But 10 years ago, researchers Lyndall Ryan, of Flinders University, and Margie Ripper, of the University of Adelaide, found in a study of 100 women that most felt overwhelming relief about their abortion.
In the current crusade against abortion, led by Tony Abbott, the assumption is that more young women, given "independent" counselling or denied easy access to abortion or Medicare funding, would relinquish their babies.
No man could know what that feels like, how it colours a woman's life, punches a hole right in the middle of it. It is not a neat alternative. Women should not be forced down that road again by restricting access to abortion.
Reading the testimonies of relinquishing mothers is another reminder of why women should be left to decide when, if and in what circumstances they become mothers. It is not for male lawmakers and male churchmen to limit their choices.
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One more question...please don't take offence, I truly want to know. If you prefer the experience of the abortions to relinquishing, would you then have preferred to abort your living son? While it certainly hurts to be seperated from him, does it not make you feel happy that he is alive instead of having his life taken through abortion? I think that this is another example of why we need more resources to help women get the support they need. While I support the option of adoption, and hope to adopt myself, it is preferable for a mother to raise her own child. Is suspect, as you have pointed out in some of your posts, that many women make their choices based on temporary circumstances-whether that is abortion or relinquishing. There is a desperate need for us to help women understand that these circumstances aren't necessarily permanent, and if they can provide a safe, nurturing environment for their child, they need not be concerned about not having everything else perfect. Over the last few years, as I have been working to set up and outreach that will provide support to women in this type of situation (among other things), I have begun to look at abortion as an extension of the forced relinquishment policy. If society doesn't think that she is "ready" or she doesn't have what we think she should, she is directed to the clinic. While a woman who chooses this may not feel the pain later, a woman that is feeling forcced into it by circumstances certainly will. Those are the women that I have experience with--the ones that hadn't finished college yet so a baby will disrupt the time line their parents had taught them to use to plan life, or the women who were single and were afraid of shaming their families if anyone knew that they were having premarital sex. When you get down to it, they were not given a choice-they were dictated my others about what to do. Sadly this happens all to often. Any ideas of what type of programs our outreach could set up to help women sort out the facts and overcome the shame that is being forced on them? I am most interested in your ideas. In any event, I hope that you do get to reunite with your son and I pray that he has a wonderful afamily that will keep him safe in the mean time.
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Definatly no offence. Only though real communication can we really understand all the complexities of the issues involved.
So to answer your question...no. I am glad he was not aborted. If I had wanted to do that I certainly could have. I am sure that he is happy to be alive as I am sure that his adoptive family is greatful for him also. I am glad he is alive too. I would not change that ever. I just wish I would have kept him. That would have been the path with the least pain and greastest return of joy for me..and probably pretty darn good for him too...maybe some hard work, but so worth it.
I guess my issue is the comparasion of the feelings involved. You can't nulify the pain of adoption loss by saying.."well, at least you gave life" and that makes it a good thing. And in the same token, I am not saying that just because terminating a pregnancy does not always have the same long term issues of grief for some folks it is also a good thing. I can't say that abortions are wonderful, but rather I liken them to a necessary evil. It stinks to be in the situation where a pregnancy, what should be a joyous occassion, is filled with stress and strife. I just can't see Adoption as the answer to end abortion. It's taking something rather icky and replacing it with something that is also rather icky in certain ways. And I totally agree with you on needing to come up with another answer. There needs to be some other form of support so that being pregnant before is "ready" does not lead to any tragedy for both mother and child.
Sometimes I think that we have built motherhood / parenthood up on too high of a pedestal. What was a natural progression of life is now almost a social symbol that needs to be achieved in the right order or else it is considered a disaster. The list of things one needs to have before one is "ready" is almost inattainable..and cuts out the beauty and magic of life and love and chance, fate and hard work and maybe even a good dose of charter building struggle.
I don't know the answers..I really don't.
I believe that we are capapble to doing alot more then we think we can. It's trying to convince people of the power within themselves that's hard.
Thank you for your warm thoughts. I do have great trust in his family and truly know that he is healthy, loved and happy. I know I cannot undo what has been done and will just contiue to move on.
EggyMother24
You can't nulify the pain of adoption loss by saying.."well, at least you gave life" and that makes it a good thing. Sometimes I think that we have built motherhood / parenthood up on too high of a pedestal. What was a natural progression of life is now almost a social symbol that needs to be achieved in the right order or else it is considered a disaster. The list of things one needs to have before one is "ready" is almost inattainable..and cuts out the beauty and magic of life and love and chance, fate and hard work and maybe even a good dose of charter building struggle.
Wow..it's so nice to be in agreement with someone even when being on opposite sides of the proverabal fence. I am really enjoying this exchange. Thank you.
Hmm..I think we have to look at the reasons why someone thinks they cannot parent..and really rip it apart one issue at a time.
Unfortunalty, in the case of abortion you don't have the time factor or even the chance to do so. I guess maybe that's why there are so many of what I think as disusgusting tactics outside of clinics as last ditch efforts to stop it. I wish crisis pregnancy centers really were there to help find resourses and ready mothers for their child instead of having their own political and monetary agendas. In my experience, most are either anti-abortion and just stop there and/ or use adoption as an answer, or feed directly into an agency that will benefit from the relinquishment of another child. Definalty not unbaised.
What I find curious is that states that have the most restrictive access to abortion services ( whether this is right or wrong) have the largest budget cuts for family services and social assistance for the poor and uneducated. The message I get there is that they want the babies born, but then don't want to give a hoot afterwards. So what is to become of the children saved from abortion? It is wrong to abort, then it is wrong to be on social assistance when you need it, it is wrong to not have it all 'ready" for a child, it is wrong to be stuggling with bills and be a parent....so should everyone then just be adopted out?? Truthfully..that really scares me. And sometimes it looks to be where the govenrment is leading. When abortion is such a hot political subject, and our ( cough, choke..) President is supporting maternity homes and buddies with Gladneys, but cutting funding for anything else not having to do with war mongering and big business....who is left caring for the ones who need help? oopps sorry, political tanget..back to the issues!
With adoption, there is more time to explore the issues that make on wnat to or feel unable to parent. The thing that gets me..is that often it seems once someone does begin to explore adoption..all they are given is the positive rosy tones of it. It becomes a beautiful selfless act of loving courage instead of a tradegy that a mother is unable to care for her own child. Or too scared to try..or thinks herself as such a failure for not having all the other things deemed "necessary" in life that she cannot manage a child either...so we don't try to really help her get to where she needs to be to live life as a whole person..we take from her, while telling her how wonderful she is, and then leave her to navigate a world of pain that often no one prepared her for.
I hear some of the "reasons' why adoption "is the best choice for my baby" and I want to scream. Sometimes they read more like the fancy wording from an adoption web page and I can help but to think that the poor girls never have a chance once they step though an agency door and speak to the wonderful supportive social workers. And I know that they really believe it, some of the workers really believe it, but somewhere there is also those who see dollar signs instead of bellies full of life and the future. I hear my own pretty sad rational and remember how I really believed them. I know "being couragous and strong" appealed to more than having to work a bit harder and possibly not get what I wanted immediatly. It's looking beyond the immediate and having some fate in our own capabilities to really get to where we want to be and knowing that having a child does not **** you into a lousy substandard existance for life.
Maybe there is just no easy answer. People will have sex, birthcontrol will be ignored or fail, babies will be concieved and preganacies considered a crisis, but unless a mother is sure that she will hurt her child and really does not want to parent ( not right now, not at this time..I mean ever be a parent ) then all the "reasons" have another solution other than adoption. Or at least, let's let them know really what they can be in for before they are stuck with it. Then, maybe, it's really a choice.
Ah, the perfect world...
EggyMother24
I wish crisis pregnancy centers really were there to help find resourses and ready mothers for their child instead of having their own political and monetary agendas.
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NDN
The question to ask about adoption is, Who can provide the safest home for my child-both physically and emotionally. If a mother can do that, she should not feel pressured to relinquish her child.
bromanchik
If expectant parents in crisis compared themselves to others out there (i.e. couples hoping to adopt) what do you think the answer is going to be? Unfortunately your question is exactly why many parents place their children for adoption,,, because they are comparing themselves to others. The true question is "Can I give my baby everything he/she needs." Notice I did not say "everything I want for them. There are a lot of things I want for my children that they do not need.
I thought you might find this interesting. I found this quote on another thread in the adult adoptee forum. This highlights, from the perspective of an adoptee, the problem with adoption. Every child has a spiritual connection to their biological parent that cannot be severed. Growing up in a family that loves you and takes care of you is wonderful, but when the connection is denied there is an emptines. In my case, for example, my mother was adopted. I do not believe that her bio parents should have kept her-she was abused until she was 2, then adopted, and I am glad that abortion was not legal at the time or she would not be here and neither would I or my children. However, even knowing the horrible circumstances, I still try to maintain a relationship with the bio parents. I don't consider them to be my grandparent, as they gave that right up through their abuse and neglect, but I am still strangely drawn to them. I have not seen the bio dad since I was 3 but am still intensely curious. While adoption is a necessary tragedy in this imperfect world, it is still a tragedy for the children (and relinquishing parents) to be seperated from those that are most intimately connected to their spirit. It is bad enough when a child is given up because they are unwanted (as my mother was), but it is incomprehensible that so many solicit women in crisis to relinquish their children into a situation that is far from the idea.
We aren't a commodity that can be bought and sold, we aren't a possession to be prounced around. Dont deny your children to know their biological history, culture or heritage. And if later in life they want to search for their biological family, dont deny them that, you owe it to them to support them. While there is no doubt that many adoptive families will LOVE their newly adopted children equally, Love is not enough by itself to make an adoptive child flourish into adulthood. To those of you perspective adoptive parents, do listen to us adoptees , learn from our experiences, listen to our stories and learn from them. you never know, it may help you to understand what we adoptees feel on the other side of the fence. You shouldnt feel intimidated by us, we have had equally different experiences, some good some bad.. but we are here as a witness to not only help others understand- but to help others from sliding down that slippery slope so that today's adoptive children dont have to experience the confusion that many adoptees in the past have.
[QUOTE=NDN]I forgot to say that any pregnant woman is already a mother. Even while the child is in the womb, her choices affect her child--from what she eats to terminating his life. The philisophical argument about the beginning of life can go on and on, but I have never met a woman that has felt the quickening of a child in he uterus that didn't feel that this was life (even those that had abortions). And I have yet to meet a woman that had an abortion that has no residual emotional trauma--even 20 years later. QUOTE] here's another one. I had an abortion when i was 23 and I didn't feel like a mother, or 'feel the quickening of life' which frankly sounds like bollocks to me - I've borne one child and I didn't feel anything like this any way through the pregnancy. I certianly don't feel any trauma, in fact having now had a child and am currently regretting it I am very very glad I made that decision at that point. It wasn't a child it was a collection of cells working their way towards being an organism. If that shrimp thing was a child then so are all the eggs i flush down the loo once a month.
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I seriously have planned and considered opening a non-profit building for women that would have NO affiliation to adoption agencies or anti-abortion supporters. I think there are many women in DIRE NEED of resources and non-biased opinions regarding an unplanned pregnancy or even a planned pregnancy that ends in crisis. I think it should involve all resources from assistance with being an advocate for the expectant mother with public assistance resources to counseling on site to housing if that is what the mom needs. Everything from budgeting, employment issues, education, cooking...classes on childcare, even a lactation nurse would be on staff. I don't think there should be any affiliation or assumptions regarding what a certain individual will do or why she is there. It is just support to single women who are pregnant.I think we are desperately in need of places where women can go and not have advice from people who have an underlying motive. I have researched it, planned it, worked on a business plan, etc., and am finishing my second degree at this time and I see it happening within the next 5-10 years which is too far away IMO. As far as the shame that comes with being a single parent, I think that shame is becoming more and more of a fable. I think women are becoming more self-reliant and stronger than decades before and yes, it still happens because it is very easy to feel bad about your situation when you are in (duh) a very difficult situation...but that can only change through education and having an open mind, and of course, being around supportive people who are supportive of you, who you are, and your strengths. I think there are some that assume a single mother should be ashamed of herself for getting pregnant... and after reading many articles, books, and researching different areas of the world, like Iceland for instance, where single women who have multiple children from multiple relationships and that is the norm, I can see that judgmental trend changing.I may not agree with how someone lives his/her life...but I am not the one to point the finger at someone saying they are not living their life right. I have one friend who waited until she was 42 to try to have children and no such luck. She has adjusted to the fact that she will never have children. She did all the right stuff. She went to college, received her master's degree, dated here and there...waited and waited...never found the right time and now is out of time.I have another friend who has six children from different relationships and has never been married and she is happier than happy even though many of her family members disapprove even though she is self-sustaining, homeowner, etc. I think it is contradictory to criticize any parent who has many children from many different relationships (I see this all the time) ... but it is seen as acceptable to have many children from different gene pools through adoption. JMHO.
Sir Isaac Newton's Law III states that for every action there is always opposed an equal reaction: or, the mutual actions of two bodies upon each other are always equal, and directed to contrary or opposite parts.
Love begets love and violence begets violence. Every time that nature is disrupted, there are bound to be serious consequences. Birth is a natural act and it begets the carrying on of the human race. Abortion is an unnatural act and it begets the destruction of the human race. Ripples from both are far reaching.
Birth gives us children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and therefore the carrying on of the family.
Abortion gives us lost never to be forgotten children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and therefore the destruction of the family.
"The real question today is not when human life begins, but, What is the value of human life?" President Ronald Reagan
I also believe that women ought to parent and that services should be provided for them to parent.
In unmarried pregnancies today, 49% end in abortion, 49% single-parent, and only 2% make adoption plans.
So the primary focus has been on the larger percentages rather than that 2% who choose adoption.
i have seen post-abortion trauma, I have counseled post abortion women, I have stood on the sidewalk silently praying, I have helped women who decided NOT to abort and did not aboandon them but got them the help so that they could parent.
Unless you have been on the sidewalk and spoken to the people there in front of the mill- dont label all of us as coercing women out of abortions and leading them towards adoption.
There are some yes, though very few unlike the media portrays it, that are quite frightening. They are the minority and we are not at all fanatics. I can say that anyone I have ever worked with knows that I care for BOTH mother and Child and both are deserving of our love and do not deserve to be abandoned.
Lastly,there are women who dont regret their abortions, of course. There are also women who do not regret choosing adoption. But ther are many who do regret abortion and many who do regret adoption. While the adoption trauma is STILL an evolving subject, we need to inform ourselves more in that area and also reach out to the women in need.
Thats what post abortive women are doing... the ones who regret their abortions are helping other women. The women who regret theor adoptions ALSO need to reach out to other women. In BOTH cases -- what is done is done.. it cant be changed.. What can change is helping women through the process of grief, suffering and regret-- they must find healing . I think its wrong to lobby against adoption even thougha women may regret it-- for many women it is a viable choice. We MUST focus on the effects of the women who experience post adoption trauma and make that information known prior to making that decision. this too is what Crisis pregnancy centers do. Informed consent is the only consent whether it is regarding abortion trauma or adoption trauma. the information MUST be given so that a woman can truly make an informed choice. Is there any harm in that? Surely not.
Instead of blaming either pro-choicers or pro-lifers I have always failed to understand especially in the post trauma area why two sides can not agree that healing needs to take place.
In order to be pro-life one must value ALL life, born and unborn. Not just one or the other.
Just my $.02
Yvonne
Quote: We MUST focus on the effects of the women who experience post adoption trauma and make that information known prior to making that decision. this too is what Crisis pregnancy centers do. Informed consent is the only consent whether it is regarding abortion trauma or adoption trauma. the information MUST be given so that a woman can truly make an informed choice. Is there any harm in that? Surely not. Instead of blaming either pro-choicers or pro-lifers I have always failed to understand especially in the post trauma area why two sides can not agree that healing needs to take place. In order to be pro-life one must value ALL life, born and unborn. Not just one or the other.I agree with informing others regarding abortion trauma or adoption trauma, however, many pregnancy crisis centers have affiliation with pro-life groups or adoption agencies. I don't think a lot of these centers are truly pro-mother, that is, giving the mother the choices, options, rights, decisions to be made and the counseling to make that informed decision, whatever that decision may be. That is pro-mother and I am all about pro-mother. I think there should be centers where there is no affiliation. I keep looking and looking and they are, from my research, few and far between. I have been to crisis pregnancy centers who claim to not have any affiliation, and, yet, anti-abortion propaganda videos are lined on the shelves of the living room. Counselors counsel these poor women and when women share stories of physical abuse during their childhood, they are told to relinquish because, like you said, violence begets violence. This is NOT pro-mother IMO. I don't want to make this an abortion debate...but I think a lot of women (from what I have experienced) do value life, their lives, their families lives and well-being, and cannot see any other way except to abort. Is it right? I don't know...but I think the more informed a mother is, the more she will make the decision she doesn't regret, whether it be parenting, adoption, or abortion. JMHO.
[font=Arial][/font] [font=Arial]Well...on this, one is often the result of poor judgment in choosing male/female companions (I'm certainly guilty of this) and the other is often the result of biological conditions that are no one's fault. Hence, one is socially frowned upon, the other is not. It has nothing to do with the biological connections of the children (or the lack thereof), but the behavior of the parents.[/font] [font=Arial]This is an interesting discussion for me because, like Claud, I have also terminated two pregnancies (as a teen, same guy) and I don't regret either termination in the slightest. I have no lingering pain or sadness about it and no post-abortion trauma. I know several other women who have terminated pregnancies and none of them feel traumatized either (most having gone on to bear bio children). The only thing I feel bad about is that my BF wanted something far more permanent than I did and his feelings were hurt by our breakup (an eventuality as far as I was concerned). I was going places, he was not.[/font] [font=Arial]People who know me are sometimes shocked by that because they know how much I have always wanted to be a parent. But that's just it...I have always wanted to be a parent, not give birth. And I have always wanted to be a parent on my terms, not anyone elses or according to the whims of fate. In a lot of ways Җ God did me a favor by saddling DH and I with unexplained infertility as it allowed us to build our family in the way I felt most comfortable.[/font] [font=Arial]I have always carried a laundry list of parenting prerequisites but it wasn't forced on me. Having grown up in a home with argumentative parents and an eventual divorce, I wanted no part of that for any child of mine. [font=Arial]I[/font] wanted to offer a loving, single-family house with a non-pot-smoking, literate father. [font=Arial]I[/font] wanted to be able to pay my bills with no government assistance. [font=Arial]I [/font]wanted to be married and part of an effective parenting team. [font=Arial]I[/font] wanted to be a single college student living in the dorms with other single college students. Those were [font=Arial]my[/font] ground rules for becoming a parent. Yes, my parents had the funds and the desire to support me regardless of my decision but as a black woman, I am acutely aware of the stereotypes of young black mothers (many of my friends became parents as teens and still struggle with the consequences) and I wanted no part of that lifestyle or stigma. Could I have been a better consumer of birth control information , you betcha. But I knew that no one would be a better parent for my child than me, and since I was unwilling/unable to parent at that time in the way I deemed best, I chose not become a parent at that time.[/font] [font=Arial]So much of the talk about adoption vs. abortion vs. parenting assumes that each is a viable option for all women and they are not. The perceived options of an aa woman experiencing a crisis pregnancy are not the same as they are for cc women. A) There is no pent-up demand for little brown babies so your placement options are limited AND there is significant risk that the person(s) that adopt your child will so assimilate him/her that the child will never be at peace with his/her ethnicity. B) Even as a married woman, I feel uncomfortable going out with my child when my husband is not along because people assume the worst about my lifestyle. Had I chosen to parent, that would have been my constant truth. C) Adoption is not something most aa families can accept since historically, ALL aa children were kept within the family regardless of parentage, conception horrors, etc. Many aa women are disowned for placing a child and I know much of my family would not have been supportive (an understatement).[/font][font=Arial]As for the protesters outside clinics, I found them hypocritical b/c those same people would have fallen all over themselves to condemn me if I had parented and/or accepted a penny of government assistance (I was pg during the raging welfare reform debates) and I'll betcha dollars to donuts none of them would have stepped up to take my baby and raise him/her to be a happy, healthy, ethnically whole human being.[/font] [font=Arial]I think every woman should do what is best for her; Im all for counseling, parenting support for those who want it Җ real options. But I think its appalling that there are still those who presume to know what is/was/should be best for others. ItҒs the height of presumption, IMHO. Were all different.[/font]
shoeshopping
[/font][font=Arial]I think it is contradictory to criticize any parent who has many children from many different relationships (I see this all the time) ... but it is seen as acceptable to have many children from different gene pools through adoption. JMHO.
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This is an interesting thread. It's a great forum because people of different opinions can express themselves.I'm probably the most pro-choice person I know. What struck me about the article is that the gvt is trying to put restrictions on abortion. That's just insane to me. What right do some men sitting in a gvt office have to decide what's best for everyone. My uterus is my business and no one else's. Adoption is a wonderful thing and there are plenty of families willing to adopt a newborn. If a woman chooses to place her baby that should be her choice. A woman who wants to terminate her pregnancy should not be forced to be someone else's incubator just because that couple wants to adopt a baby.If anything, I think there should be more access to abortion and it should not cost as much as it does. How is a pregnant 14 yo going to come up with hundreds of dollars to terminate her pregnancy? Have we forgotten the days when abortion was illegal and women relied on some back-ally butchers to terminate their pregnancies. A quick search on the internet will provide hundreds of such stories. Coat hangers and all. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and if you're against abortion, don't have one. But no one has the right to decide what's "best" for others or to impose their beliefs on everyone else. I'm not accusing anyone on this forum of doing such a thing, but the fact that our gvt is trying to restrict abortion just has me fuming. It is every woman's right to decide when and how she wants to have children. Abortion is a medical procedure, when it comes down to it. It should be performed by licensed practitioners under sanitary conditions. If anything, our gvt should be ensuring that. Not trying to determine who has a right to terminate her pregnancy and when. That's just my rant. Thanks for listening.Aleea
Aleea, your post is thought-provoking. I agree with your post entirely. My grandmother had an illegal abortion while my grandfather was away in WWII and in turn, she could not have any children. They then, after many years, adopted my mother. I am shocked when I read comments regarding entitlement of what a woman should do regarding an unplanned pregnancy. It is scary to me that someone would expect a woman to carry to term in order to place her baby for adoption for aparents. I think it is such a personal issue and women should not be looked upon as incubators like you said.It saddens me to hear of people unable to have children...but I don't think that should be a reason to tell an expectant mother planning on placing that she can always have more children or think of them because they cannot have children. ? Sometimes these comments frustrate me. I have read comments where people are very angry that they cannot have children and yet, Ms. Jones down the street with three children unmarried/unplanned and not weathly doesn't deserve her children. [sigh]I don't think there should be any constraints on getting an abortion and I don't think anything should be assumed regarding adoption prior to the baby being born...jmho.