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I'm Mike from Maine. I'm currently 33 (34 in a couple weeks). I'm married and have a child on the way in August.
Just wanted to chime in to tell you of my experience in foster care.
September 26th, 1985:
I was eating lunch at Lyman Moore Middle School in Portland and someone came into the cafeteria and told me that we need to go to the office. Off we went. There, I met a fellow from the Department of Human Services who told me they were taking me to DHS for something. I hung out there for a while - something like 3 hours just kinda getting into mischief and wandering about. From there, a fellow named Bob took me to a group home near Skowhegan, Maine called Halcyon House. I stayed there for about 3 weeks (the facility closed and they needed to find us places to live). There, I was physically attacked by one of the staff members. I don't remember his name but he was a big guy. I don't know what it was with me back then but I had this rubber finger puppet that I used to try amusing people. I did it a little at him and he grabbed me and said, "If you don't stop %#&*ing around...something, something."
They wouldn't tell me what happened that I can't go home and they wouldn't let me write or call my mother. Finally I learned that she was admitted to the psych ward at a local hospital.
From there, I went to my first real foster home. Then to another, then to another group home, more foster homes...you get the idea.
Anyway, there was this one foster home, the Dukes of Lyman, Maine. Bill was pretty emotionally abusive when he got drunk calling me a reject and so on. If that wasn't bad enough, my grandfather frequently called me a nut and a freak. Whenever we'd be on 295-North between Portland and South Portland, he used to point up on a hill just before the airport and state that one of these days, I'm going to wind up there. It was a juvenile correction facility.
More foster homes, group homes and a hospitalization later, I went to live with the Freemans in Windham, Maine. They were good people except when their natural grandchildren did something wrong, they'd forgive and forget but when one of us state kids did something wrong, we got asked to leave. I was there three times. I graduated high school while there and went off to college.
Since then, I grew very angry toward my mother who put me in "care" in the first place believing that if you're not sane enough to have and handle kids, don't have them and if you bring home your two daughters out of "care" who fight all the time and leave your son in "care", she was a bad mother and I'm very angry with her even 13 years after her death. (I just realized that I've gone longer without her than I did with her). I hold no malice toward my father because he made every effort to come see me and my sisters in our respective "homes". He once rode his bicycle I don't know how many miles to see my sisters only to be turned away by the foster parents. He couldn't take us in when we first went into "care" because of the recent divorce he went through with my mother. She got custody, the apartment and whatnot. He got to live at the YMCA.
I'm curious, why do foster parents treat their foster children differently than their own flesh-and-blood kids and grandkids? I mean, as a foster kid, I've already been given the boot at home which isn't tragic enough, the foster parents often have a zero-tolerance policy for their charges and not their natural kids. It's not right, I say.
I never got any of the lessons I feel I could have used being in several "homes" like; "what do I do when I get out of "care"? "What's college like?" "How do I make friends?" "Can you teach me how to shave?" "What should I do if a woman breaks my heart?" and so on. No one ever put my report card up on their fridge or taught me how to volunteer to chaperone a field trip.
Now I'm going to be a father and I'm scared to death. I think I'd be a great dad - not only that but a pal to my children but will the examples I've learned from in "care" come through?
Ah, baba, I am so sad for the time that was robbed from you. I am glad that you have managed to "rise above" the things that have happened to you
You will make a great dad. Just remember to ask for help if you need it.
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Congrats on your new marriage and upcoming baby. I'm sorry that you had so many hard experiences with foster care. I know that there are really great foster parents out there, just as there are some that are not great. Most parents, both natural and foster, will make mistakes. I expect that you will too. I know I do.
I don't have any natural (bio) children, just one child that I've adopted and 2 more that I'm fostering. I try to treat each of my children the same, but I know that some differences remain. For a while, I wouldn't let myself love my foster kids as much, because I didn't want to get hurt if they left my house. After a few weeks, that went out the window, and I was head over heels in love with them both.
I think that as long as you try to be the best dad you can be, you'll do great. There are parenting classes around, and they are usually available thru DCFS at little or no charge. If you're concerned about how you'll be as a dad, take a class or two. Take them with your wife, it will be a learning experience for you both. Also, speak to people you know who are parents. Let them know that you have concerns for what kind of dad you'll be. You don't need to tell anyone why you have concerns, but people will always be willing to offer advice on how to raise you kids. Even if you don't want any LOL.
babaganoosh
...I never got any of the lessons I feel I could have used being in several "homes" like; "what do I do when I get out of "care"? "What's college like?" "How do I make friends?" "Can you teach me how to shave?" "What should I do if a woman breaks my heart?" and so on. No one ever put my report card up on their fridge or taught me how to volunteer to chaperone a field trip...
That is a big deficiency in foster care, I think there are some programs nowadays that try to give young people more support as they transition out on their own. I checked a DVD out of the library about it, I think it was called 'Aging Out' and they follow three kids in foster care in their last months in care and as they go out on their own. The point of the movie is that there needs to be some continuing support.
As far as teaching kids about things, I have really goofed up a couple times with the kids I had. I just had no idea that kids could be seven years old and not know how to wipe themselves after going to the bathroom especially when they'd already been in other foster homes for almost a year.
Even after I realized my mistake with the first child I had, I made the same mistake with the next because I thought the first was just a freaky thing. Then last summer I had a 4 yr old foster child plus a 9 yr old that I'd adopted from foster care. I was helping teach the little one how to do some personal care task and then the 9 yr old started crying and wailed that no one had ever taught her those things until she came to live with me.
Babaganoush,
First of all: dang, did you have to say babaganoosh? Now I'm hungry for some yummy Middle Eastern food! Mmmmmm...babaganoosh, warm pita, some lamb.....
On our sadder topic, though: I'm so sorry for all you went through. As a foster mom, I hope I treat foster kids and my adopted son the same. But I also know that sometimes there's just that little bit of distance that you keep from somebody you know might break your heart. And foster kids who leave always break my heart. It's so hard to attach to them and then have them go off and never know what became of them.
I'd love to hear your suggestions for how we foster parents might do a better job of getting kids ready for adult life. I just foster little kids right now (my rule is that my now-adopted son always has to be the oldest, you know how that goes), but I hope to foster older kids as he grows up. Getting them ready to be competent, stable, loving adults is so, so important.
P.S. If you're wondering if you're going to be a good dad, you will be. People who are bad parents lack the ability to reflect on their own parenting. If you can think about yourself critically, and really work at being a good dad, you'll be a fantastic one.
I think you might have hit the nail right on the head. Foster parents try to avoid doing such close, personal things like a "normal" family would do for fear of becoming too attached. If that were to happen, when the foster kid eventually leave care. I guess it would be like the Florence Nightingale syndrome with people who work in the nursing field. Get too close, the patient recovers or dies and the heath care provider is in mourning.
I now have a new outlook on care in that regard realizing that foster parents - good ones - must maintain a professional and emotional distance from their charges. Sure, they will care for them, feed them, clothe them and maybe even love them in a way but can't get too close.
Thanks guys, especially boulderbabe. Big help. Really.
:thanks: :flowergift:
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Well, I don't think the distance has to be "professional" or cold. I know that I genuinely care for every kid who comes into my home. The ones that stay for longer than a few weeks, I inevitably come to genuinely love. There's just no way around it: babies and little kids are programmed to make us love them!
That said, I've seen that some of the long-time foster parents I know do end up being more distant from the kids than those of us who are newer do. I wonder if after so many hurts, their hearts just scar over a little. They care, but they have to do what they have to do to keep themselves from being devastated.
I spent about an hour yesterday on the phone with my friend who is fostering her ninth child. She is ordinarily a very emotionally reserved person. But last night, she was sobbing her eyes out, thinking of what might happen to her foster daughter without her.
Babaganoosh, maybe you really had uncaring foster parents---I don't know you or your foster families, of course. But maybe they really did care about you, very much, and just couldn't risk being hurt when you left. You sound like the kind of person who really elicits a lot of love and compassion from people!
We've had an 'older' foster child whom we truly did try to treat as 'our own', for lack of a better term. We did/do love them, and continue to care about them and what they are doing in their life. I think the child knew/knows this as they've come back a time or two to see us since they've been reunited with their bio parents.
However, it wasn't an easy road and the child also had to realize that caring wasn't always going to look like THEY wanted it to. Caring also looks like mandatory drug screening after finding out that they were using. Loving them also meant that we had rules they didn't like, times where they were angry and hurt and there were exchanges of hurtful words...probably on both sides. Then they got to see what reconciliation looked like, too.
Then there was the fact that we just were not the child's 'real' parents. We all knew this; child, us, bio parents, etc. The bio parents were still in and out of the picture and there was and always would be the tug to want to love us, and feeling disloyal to the bio parents for having loving feelings for us. Then there was the tug the other way of loving the bio parents but being angry with them for the neglect and various abuses going on in the home. There just isn't any straightforward 'do it this way' that fits every case, and there is always an ongoing process of trying to figure out the best paths to take. At least, this is how it is supposed to be.
No matter how hard both parties work to make the arrangement loving and caring, supportive and consistant, there will be difficulties and pain along the way. And that is the best case scenario. When one or the other of the parties involved become cynical, get power hungry, or are downright abusive then the system fails abysmally.
I'm also the spouse of a foster child and I know that overcoming the doubts engendered by the foster system was difficult for my Dh. He is, however, a wonderful husband and father. Took time and work, but his decision to make it work was a huge part of the equation. He and I both work to educate ourselves and also to work through the mistakes we inevitably make. Boulderbabe is correct; if you are concerned about being a good parent, you will be.
You will be a great dad. My niece was in foster care (she's older than me so I couldn't take her) and was molested among other troubles. She has four children who are teenagers and is adopting two more little ones who are the children of a cousin. She's the best mom I know and her children adore her.
Amy
Babaganoosh - I think it's great that you are out here looking for more information. I fostered, and then adopted my son starting when he was four. I, and he were very lucky that we had wonderful people from the state and from our agency helping all of us along the way. We all know that there are people out there who look at foster care as a paycheck and who, as in your case, seem to treat their foster children as somehow less than their biological children. The good thing is, I feel like that's changing. We on this forum work so hard to do the best for our foster children despite all the challenges that come along with it. From experience, I will tell you that it's really hard to have a child in your home who looks to you for answers about their life and because of the circumstances, you can't tell them what's going to happen. Unfortunately, even when the system works, it's still fraught with uncertainty.
I think you can be a great dad. Your experiences may serve as a way for you to figure out what you think the right way to raise your child is. It sound to me like you're taking the initiative to learn what you can so that you can understand what happened in your own life. I applaud you!!
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wow. I'm surprised people are still responding to this thread.
Just wanted to say thanks for the insight and support. It means a lot to me.
Also, my daughter was born on the 15th of August at a healthy 9 lbs.
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She's absolutely gorgeous!! Congratulations - and I know you'll be a wonderful father to her!! I didn't answer before, but I have a teenage foster son who is transitioning to independent living, and HE has many of the fears that you mention. (only, thank god for him, he hasn't had the terrible experience of abusive or uncaring foster homes - he did have one awful year when he was nine, but has found a real family with us). He is afraid of ever having kids because he is afraid he'll end up being an alcoholic, or neglectful, or abusive like his own family, and what I always say to him is if you KNOW what the possible problems are and what kinds of things you don't want to see happen to your own kids, then you will be able to do the right thing. I've told him from what I know abused children either end up being abusers themselves, or end up being the best and most loving parents in the world. There is no in between, and what seems to make the difference is acknowledging and understanding what went wrong in their own childhood. Best wishes for you and your lovely daughter!
Beautiful baby ! You will love her unconditionally , wait and see.The love babies give back its nearly impossible not to be your best.
I do know some people fail, but you have a clear picture of what that feels like, you're gonna be great!
She was born on my foster sons birthday.Do I love him, you betcha.And he was a troubled little boy -just turned 9, his brother 2.I know they will most likely get moved as it is being discussed at this very moment -because a relaitve came in.But it will hurt no less than if it were my own flesh and blood children leaving.We are a family.4 months with them and I cant remember being without them.My husband and I raised 6 kids alone and we are so much better together.He has 2 me 4. All grown and starting again,together.
Hold her close , show her all the great things daddys have to give, and all will be great :love:
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