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It has been a long 4 yrs and now it is over.
We have lost.
The appeals court upheld the lower courts decision to send the case to NC.
The two reasons were that both bparents live in NC and therefore any custody should be there.
Bmom lives in MI.She will not change her address due to she does not want the Bfather to find her because of the extent of physical abuse he gave her and she still fears him.
The 2nd reason was because the Bfather can not afford to obtain an attorney in OH.
Along with the decision paperwork we also received a letter from our attorney that states we need to hire another attorney due to him being unable to represent us. The state suspended him from practicing law for 6mths because he used a client to obtain another client.(Whatever that means).
We can not do that.We have to lose.We have spent 20K in losing her and have exhausted every finacial avenue we had.I had to make promises to the mortgage company and everyone else in order to survive and provide for my family.If I break those promises we will be homeless.
I want to thank everyone here for the support you have given us through all of this and to ask not to waste any prayers on us. Instead pray for this 9yr old angel that she will not blame GOD for this and that what ever his plan is for her it will be carried out.
GOD BLESS
There are no words to say how completely sickening this is. It makes me want to just burst out in tears and punch some judges in the nose...all at one time. This is so WRONG!!!
If I were you I'd also go public and fight. Call your local news stations ASAP and tell them you NEED HELP FAST.
If you scream loud enough SOMEONE will hear you. Some lawyer is bound to take on your case...and fight for your daughter. She deserves so much better.
I know it sounds like the birthmom is also fighting for custody...but she may be willing to jump over to your side and also FIGHT for your/her daughter that she not be placed with that abusive dangerous man.
Most of all I can't imagine how terribly difficult it would be to talk to your daughter about this. That brings me to tears. NO THIS CAN'T HAPPEN.
If you go public....people WILL hear your cry's and get just as outraged...that this little girl would be forced to go through this...YOUR NOT ALONE.
There are many of us here...and around your community who will stand up for your daughter...and HER rights.
PLEASE.... SPEAK UP...BEG for HELP!!!! Don't let them get away with this horrible violation....without notice. Make them be accountable for what is going on, make then quiver at the knees for doing such a horrible thing to this beautiful child.
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!
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Daddysangel, I am so sorry. I am in complete disbelief that this could happen. I agree with others-- go public, as much as you possibly can. Write to the local news, the national news, daytime talk shows, anyone who will accept a call, letter or email from you. This is horrible. Just horrible.
Is there a post where I can read the context of your situation, ie: on what grounds is the adoption being contested? was it ever finalized? etc?
Jumping in so late here, but I agree...go public. As someone else said, you have nothing more to lose...go public.
Call the local media, call the national media. Call Dateline, Primetime, whomever comes to mind. I know this stuff happens, and it's totally sickening that it should happen---especially to a child that's nine years old.
I find it strange that this child should be brought to the bfather, when he's not supported or met her? As well, is there any kind of record this man has made in regards to the allegations of abuse to the birthmother?
My heart goes to you. My prayers will go to you and as joskids said, God IS in control of this. Please take gentle care of yourselves and let those close to you help you through this as well.
Sincerely,
Linny
I saw your original post just after you wrote it, but it has taken me this long to stop crying and be able to write. I am so deeply sorry. I also agree to go public.
Another thought. I would suggest making sure your daughter understands the power of the school system. So, if she does go there, if she is not properly cared for in any way, she needs to tell the school. A lot of tears followed by: do not make me go home with him: he does not give me my medicine, there are bugs all over the floors, etc. Followed by: I want to go home to my mom & dad. The schools are under a lot of pressure to protect children from abuse, so she should make them her alies.
Again, I am so sorry. You daughter has been in my thoughts and prayers constantly since you posted.
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Daddysangel. My Niece is a reporter for the Greensboro NC paper. If the BF lives aroud there, she said she would bring the story to her court reporters. Is he near Greensboro, and would you like some focus on it?
First to my wife- I know we sit and think about alot of things and I realize that everything in our world will never be the same if she was to leave,but it is reality today and even though we never believed it would come to this we have to continue to find ways to keep it together and prepare for the biggest battle we will ever face as a family.Keep praying sweetie.
The bmom has always been on our side.She actually was in court with us a couple times.Along with us she was also bashed by the judge.
BF is in the Hendersonville/Ashville area. Buncombe County. We would not mind at all if your niece could do that.However we can not handle it right now if it were to turn out as what the courts are doing to us.WE ARE THE VILLAINS IN THIS.
The OH attorney said we needed to take it to NC because the OH Supreme court will not overturn it and NC is only hearing his side.
We have all the court documents from NC and police records showing his abuse and showing that he knew where we were living in the yr 2000.Address and all.These are all legal documents. BUT.....
In OH decision to send it there they state that we have hid the child from him for 7 yrs.
When we started this she was 51/2 yrs old.
We had an attorney and all the evidence and even OH heard only one side.
NONE OF THEM HEAR THE CRIE'S OF THIS CHILD.
There is also records of child abuse agaisnt his son.They dropped it however.This guy is an accomplished lier.
So far the courts in NC and OH are supporting him and making sure that we are the ones that pay for this terrible act agaisnt this little girl.
If GOD blesses us with the money to go there and fight he will then realize along with his attorney and the court what it means to be a dedicated parent to a child.
I pray today that GOD hears this childs cries and that HE will deliver her from this evil.Hold her close LORD when I can not.
GOD BLESS
DaddysAngel, I passed on your message, as well as some of your more detailed posts to my niece. I explained to her that if her newspaper picked up this story, they could not just review court documents and talk to the BF, they needed to talk to you and your daughter. I have not heard back from her yet, but when I do I will pass on what she said.
Daddys Angel i passed on some contacts to your wife in a PM. Let me know if they help, also if you need more information PM me.
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When we see all the support from you all and we get all kinds of ideas pmed to us,how can we just lay down and stop fighting.
After alot of talk and ALOT of tears we have decided to give up all our material possesions if needed in order to save this beautiful child and in the end if we stand as a family of four with nothing else we will have everything we ever needed.
Thanks to the keeper of the stars ;)
Thankyou :cowboy: I love you and am very grateful for what you have done for my wife.You have become part of our family and someday when these cases are over we will have to get together so we can celebrate.If you ever need anything please let us know.
Maybe with all this support and prayers we can defeat evil and somehow get back to a normal life.
Thankyou all
GOD BLESS
I hope it doesn't have to go as far as giving up all of your material posessions, but you are right, in the end if you have your family in tact, that's the most important thing. God knows your needs. I pray for your family every day and in my heart I know that He will find a way for her to stay. She is loved there and that's what God wants for all of his chidlren.
Daddysangel,
Seems that this child has been in your care for many years and all care abandoned by the biofather to you. Have you thought about suing for past child support in addition to your suit for tpr/custody? Because if nothing else, I doubt this man would like the idea of the very large number he would likely have assessed agasinst him in the event he takes your daughter back into his home. I don't think this biodad sounds like he is thinking of your daugther's best interests, only his own and facing the reality of emptying his pockets to you may make him look at his motives and what he wants a little more closely.
You ought to be entitled to the support for the years of care you provided and if the courts do want to place her with him it would make sense for them to order him to pay you back child support. Talk to your attorney.
That's a GREAT POINT about the child support. I'd sure try it. We considered, when our daughter's bio father decided to contest the adoption when she was 5 mos old, that he must have been mistaken and thought she was in our home for babysitting services!!!! So we decided that if he truly got custody after all that time, knowing she was in our home as an adoptive placement and that he had plenty of time to support the birthmother and be a man and act as a father should, that he should pay us babysitting money. Don't think we would not have filed for babysitting services for all the months prior to when he signed the contesting paperwork!!!! He had the gall to file paperwork to contest the adoption and ASK US FOR CHILD SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!! Do you believe it? We thought his attorney must be nuts. Turns out he was . . .
I would leave NO STONE UNTURNED in your case, Daddy's Angel. If your daughter's birthfather wanted you to be a babysitter all these years, or a foster parent, then he should pay you for all that time that she spent in your home. Don't know if the law would see it this way, but it's certainly something to think about.
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Hi daddysangel,
Just racking my brain trying to come up with some thing - anything - to help.
One thing I did in my case was to have tons of letters mailed to the judge in my case, and other prominent leaders. I don't know how much it helped - but I do think it let "them" know that there were many people keeping a close eye on my case. I elicited letters from friends, coworkers, family members, church members; and I had people clamoring to write letters because they wanted so badly to help - to do something.
I'm not telling you what to do daddysangel - just wanting to help and thinking of everything I can. Now I find myself in the same position; wanting so badly to do anything to help you.
Think about it. And as you do please know that there are many of us who want to not only be here for you, but to actually do something.
As always I send you and DW and your sweet, blessed children my love and many (((HUGS))).
:cowboy:
My heart goes out to you and your family. Coming to this board and actually living through a contested adoption, even though Thank God our adoption finalized. I will never forget the emotional road we went through, it was the most hardest thing anyone could imagine. Living a life not knowing what will happen next with a child you love more then life itself is just so heartfelt. I know your pain and reading your post tells the love you have for your angel. I come back to this board only to try and help those who helped me get by on our contested adoption. Words of hope, spiritual lifting, and just the support all helped me get through. It is the hardest test of love anyone can go through. I am so sorry for anyone who has to go through such unfairness and unjustice! We are talking about innocent children who are placed with us, for a reason. Giving a birth father his rights after years of clear abandonment is just unbelievable! You cannot erase time or the love and care clearly you showed to your angel. Always know that your angel will carry the love she knows from the both of you in her heart always. I feel God chooses us because he knows the love we have for a child in our hearts. God knows that for us love not blood makes a family. Nobody knows with adoption the risk but we are the ones willing to take the chance to provide the love, stability, and care - and the two of you did just that!!! You both were called for a reason for this child. God could not have picked more loving and perfect parents for this little girl!! Your postings on this forum tell the love you have and will always have for your angel. I know for myself I prayed always for strength -and I know the only reason I got through this was by God! Pray to Him to stand by you no matter what happens, and give you the strength you need. I know it is so hard..and I wish for you and for that angel nothing but peace. I continously pray to St. Jude He is the Saint of hopeless cases. He is my special and poweful Saint. I am keeping you and your family in my prayers. Please try and keep spiritual and know that no matter what God is by your side. I know what this is like, and I feel for you and your family. Always know you are doing everything you possibly can, and that is all you can do. Cherish every minute, (which I know you do), and just stay strong she needs that the most. Without a doubt you have showered and showed this little angel a family life that she would not have known. Going through an adoption as adoptive parents we give our all these are our children..and its impossible to protect our hearts, the love we show and have is all for them- and that is why it hurts so much. Please if you need anything just someone to listen I am here...I feel your pain...you can pm me..God Bless