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Been talking with a few birth and adoptive mom friends. Turns out that we've all been irrationally angry/upset in the past. Examples:1. Birth mom is pregnant.2. Adoptive mom is pregnant or adopting again.3. One family or the other got transferred due to a job and had to move.You know, stuff that the other party doesn't really have a say over, a right to control and so on. My question today is: what have you been irrationally angry over? How have you dealt with it? Did you discuss it with the other party in the interest of open and honest communication or did you deal with it on your own, fully aware that it was irrational and thus wanting to get your feelings straight before discussing the matter at all?Thought this would be a helpful discussion to pull into this forum.
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thanksgivingmom
If a woman truly believes that she is less/worth less because of the way she is treated by her child's parents, that is NOT healthy. I believe that I need to be my BEST self (or at least not my worst) FOR my daughter - so for me protecting myself wouldn't be completely self serving - it would be for Cupcake as well.
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Now, there you go! Express that anger even if it is misdirected at me! Good for you! (I say this in jest. Just amused.)But seriously. I have continued to push and prod throughout this post, all of you, for reasons. Everything I read here is ABSOLUTELY SCARY. There's a LOT of unhealthy stuff going on in adoption relationships and it NEEDS to change. For you. For the other party opposite you. For our children. For society. For the birth parents, adoptive parents and adoptees who will follow in our footsteps in coming years.Change starts somewhere. I'm not content to sit by and watch people get caught up in "well, this is good enough" or "it's never going to change." We can foster change. I have to believe we can. Or it all seems hopeless and pointless.
Was researching a bit for a blog later this week and came across a great explanation of rational versus rational anger: (link: [url=http://www.healthandage.com/public/health-center/40/article/1002/Why-do-I-get-so-Angry.html]Health Topics - Current Health Centers Related News & Articles[/url] ) Perhaps that's why we sometimes see our anger as irrational and/or rational when really it is the other one (re: adoption). Examples or irrational being: birth mother gets pregnant and adoptive mom is angry. The birth mother did nothing TO the adoptive mother BUT the adoptive mother feels worry for the child. Rational: Visits being canceled, no communication, etc, because those are actively being done to you.
There is a kind of anger that is both normal and rational. If someone is trying to burn your house or hurt your family, the suitable response is to be angry, aggressive and take some appropriate action. Rational anger is the result of someone doing, or threatening to do, something hurtful to you. Irrational anger, on the other hand, is when you find yourself being very angry when no one is doing anything to you.
SchmennaLeigh
Was researching a bit for a blog later this week and came across a great explanation of rational versus rational anger: (link: [url=http://www.healthandage.com/public/health-center/40/article/1002/Why-do-I-get-so-Angry.html]Health Topics - Current Health Centers Related News & Articles[/url] )
Perhaps that's why we sometimes see our anger as irrational and/or rational when really it is the other one (re: adoption).
Examples or irrational being: birth mother gets pregnant and adoptive mom is angry. The birth mother did nothing TO the adoptive mother BUT the adoptive mother feels worry for the child.
Rational: Visits being canceled, no communication, etc, because those are actively being done to you.
[/QOUTE]I guess though, it really is less about anger and more about hurt and disappointment.[/QUOTE]
You have just described my feelings 90% of the time.
By that I mean, when I am hurt or disappointed, the majority of the time it comes out in anger. It is so much easier for me to allow myself to be angry than it is to allow myself to feel hurt.
It hurts ME that my son's bmom has not seen him since March. It hurts me because I feel like when he gets older and can understand it all, it will hurt HIM. So yeah, that comes out as anger.
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SchmennaLeigh
Now, there you go! Express that anger even if it is misdirected at me! Good for you! (I say this in jest. Just amused.)
But seriously. I have continued to push and prod throughout this post, all of you, for reasons. Everything I read here is ABSOLUTELY SCARY. There's a LOT of unhealthy stuff going on in adoption relationships and it NEEDS to change. For you. For the other party opposite you. For our children. For society. For the birth parents, adoptive parents and adoptees who will follow in our footsteps in coming years.
Change starts somewhere. I'm not content to sit by and watch people get caught up in "well, this is good enough" or "it's never going to change."
We can foster change. I have to believe we can. Or it all seems hopeless and pointless.
feelingreyt
You have just described my feelings 90% of the time.
By that I mean, when I am hurt or disappointed, the majority of the time it comes out in anger. It is so much easier for me to allow myself to be angry than it is to allow myself to feel hurt.
It hurts ME that my son's bmom has not seen him since March. It hurts me because I feel like when he gets older and can understand it all, it will hurt HIM. So yeah, that comes out as anger.
SchmennaLeigh
Now, there you go! Express that anger even if it is misdirected at me! Good for you! (I say this in jest. Just amused.)
But seriously. I have continued to push and prod throughout this post, all of you, for reasons. Everything I read here is ABSOLUTELY SCARY. There's a LOT of unhealthy stuff going on in adoption relationships and it NEEDS to change. For you. For the other party opposite you. For our children. For society. For the birth parents, adoptive parents and adoptees who will follow in our footsteps in coming years.
Change starts somewhere. I'm not content to sit by and watch people get caught up in "well, this is good enough" or "it's never going to change."
We can foster change. I have to believe we can. Or it all seems hopeless and pointless.
I've been thinking over these last couple days trying to figure out if/when we'll get together with my dd's birthfamily.
But today when I was eating breakfast with my dd at school one of her friends was talking about cheerleading.
I mentioned that my dd would probably have fun playing cheerleading with her since she likes to dance.
I asked if she's on a cheer team and she said she just pretends and practices on the playground.
I told her she should ask her mommy about going to a local class that offers cheerleading. Telling her that's where my dd does her dance classes.
She sounded all excited and my dd declared she wanted to be in cheerleading too.
I told her that it's lots of fun because they get to practice each week in a class and then they get to go on a big stage and perform.
I then looked at DD and said wasn't that fun. She said yes and smiled and I told the girl that her friends and mom and dad and grandparents and relatives get to come watch them dance of stage.
The first thing out of my dd's mouth as she frowned was "ya, but my grandma and birthmom said they were going to come a bunch of times but they never came".
Oh, my heart crushed for her. She hasn't mentioned them one bit since the morning of the recital when she asked if they'd be coming, and then a couple weeks later when she realized they hadn't come and we talked about it a little bit.
Now, 6 months later the first word she utters about them is basically that they didn't come and they hurt her feelings.:hissy:
My momma bear instincts are popping back up.
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Suziebearhugs
I've been thinking over these last couple days trying to figure out if/when we'll get together with my dd's birthfamily.
But today when I was eating breakfast with my dd at school one of her friends was talking about cheerleading.
I mentioned that my dd would probably have fun playing cheerleading with her since she likes to dance.
I asked if she's on a cheer team and she said she just pretends and practices on the playground.
I told her she should ask her mommy about going to a local class that offers cheerleading. Telling her that's where my dd does her dance classes.
She sounded all excited and my dd declared she wanted to be in cheerleading too.
I told her that it's lots of fun because they get to practice each week in a class and then they get to go on a big stage and perform.
I then looked at DD and said wasn't that fun. She said yes and smiled and I told the girl that her friends and mom and dad and grandparents and relatives get to come watch them dance of stage.
The first thing out of my dd's mouth as she frowned was "ya, but my grandma and birthmom said they were going to come a bunch of times but they never came".
Oh, my heart crushed for her. She hasn't mentioned them one bit since the morning of the recital when she asked if they'd be coming, and then a couple weeks later when she realized they hadn't come and we talked about it a little bit.
Now, 6 months later the first word she utters about them is basically that they didn't come and they hurt her feelings.:hissy:
My momma bear instincts are popping back up.
Feeling, I think you have a valid question that you have somewhat answered too. Yes, I think we all hold BFamilies (BMom's espeically) to a higher standard as they are in our minds as connected to our children as we are. We wouldn't miss anything with our kids and expect them to not want to either.
The one thing that we all have to keep in mind, not saying this is how your son's bmom is, but it might be too difficult for them to be that involved too. Aunts and Uncles see only the happy part of our childrens lives. They see that they have a happy family. The bfamily sees that happy family through sad eyes. They see that they can't give that happy life to their child and it may make it harder to be there for the happy moments, or visits for that matter.
Now, you and I have talked so I don't think this is where your sons bmom is coming from at all. Your anger towards her is fully justified. I just answered from my heart in a general manner. :grouphug:
finallyamom0310
Feeling, I think you have a valid question that you have somewhat answered too. Yes, I think we all hold BFamilies (BMom's espeically) to a higher standard as they are in our minds as connected to our children as we are. We wouldn't miss anything with our kids and expect them to not want to either.
The one thing that we all have to keep in mind, not saying this is how your son's bmom is, but it might be too difficult for them to be that involved too. Aunts and Uncles see only the happy part of our childrens lives. They see that they have a happy family. The bfamily sees that happy family through sad eyes. They see that they can't give that happy life to their child and it may make it harder to be there for the happy moments, or visits for that matter.
Now, you and I have talked so I don't think this is where your sons bmom is coming from at all. Your anger towards her is fully justified. I just answered from my heart in a general manner. :grouphug:
feelingreyt
It is very hard to tell how someone is feeling, unless they tell you. However, I am a firm believer that actions speak louder than words. And if you truly want to be there for a child, family, a friend, whomever, you don't tell them to expect you then just don't show up with NO explanation at all. I know this is totally OT, so sorry!
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Belle, I just wanted to say that I understand how you are feeling and I think your son will appreciate all that you are doing as well. I hate to sound "harsh," but as an attorney, I often have to tell clients, "It is what it is." (Glad they pay me so much for such deep advice, haha!). But honestly, there are some things that you can't change and you can only work on your own actions, emotions, etc. Part of the problem I see in OA is that everyone probably has different ideas about what that looks like in their own adoption situation (both birth and a parents). I have been upset that we have not received some things that were promised, but I also understand that maybe DD's birth mom would like to see us more, etc. She doesn't get to "see" her in person very often and I am sure that is hard. It is hard for me that I have to deal with what to tell DD about her sisters when she may never see them again for a long time (I am not going to lie about who they are to her). We all have our own feelings and they probably all are "justified" to some extent. At the end of the day, we all have to be comfortable with the things we do for our children. And I think sometimes we all have to "protect" ourselves when things aren't changing/developing the way we would like. (I haven't been able to change my husband, dangit, and it's been 15 years!).