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Interesting article... Covers clothing, hair and your name when working. One of the women interviewed is right about people not even noticing or caring after they have gotten used to it. The whole name thing drives me crazy. Why are people too lazy to learn how to pronounce a name correctly? Even if you change to something like Mary there will be people who will call you Martha... so keep your name and eventually they will learn it and be pretty proud of themselves for it.
How Ethnic Can You Be at Work?
For thousands of young professional women, displaying ethnic pride a sari to a job interview or deadlocks to a meeting ח can be a career-defining decision.
By Lisa Armstrong
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On Xueyan Feng's 18th birthday, her father, Zhaodong, asked if she wanted to change her name. Xueyan pronounced "Schwinn," like the bicycle maker ח means "snow swallow" in Chinese, and Zhaodong had chosen the name because he had seen a snowbird fly past a mountain at the moment of his daughter's birth. Despite the symbolism behind the choice, Zhaodong felt his own name may have limited him professionally when he first arrived in America (he is a professor) and did not want his daughter to suffer the same fate.
Feng, now 28 and a banking associate at J.P. Morgan, toyed with the idea when she graduated from college and started working. Her bosses routinely mangled the pronunciation of her name, causing the occasional awkward moment when she was introduced to clients and new colleagues. But in the end, she decided to stick with it. "Sometimes I wonder if people make assumptions about me based on my name, that I'm the stereotypical Asian very quiet, not a leader," Feng says. "But people also remember me because of my name ח it makes an impression, more so than it would if I were a Melissa."
Feng's concern how much of her heritage is too much to bring to work? ח isn't uncommon among the newest generation of female go-getters. In the last decade, the number of minority women in mid- and senior-level managerial positions increased almost 50 percent, according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. And despite working in offices that claim to embrace cultural diversity, many young professional women with overtly ethnic names or appearances face pressure, both tacit and explicit, to conform more than their male counterparts, who don't have to reconcile, say, saris or head coverings with a suit-and-tie office culture. "It doesn't bother me on a personal level if someone dresses a certain way because of their cultural background," says an IT services manager at a New Jersey ח based consulting firm. "But corporate attire is corporate attire. So if a woman came in a sari to interview for a job that involved seeing clients, I would ask her about it: 'Is this how you dress for your day-to-day work?'"
In a 2009 poll of female managers and business owners conducted by Pink Magazine, 98 percent of respondents said looking professional was critical to their success on the job; one in five female execs even admitted that they'd withheld promotions and raises from underlings based on how they dressed. The implication: Stand out too much and it could cost you. While it's illegal for an employer to discriminate based on race or religion, dress codes are much fuzzier terrain. Bosses and HR managers take all sorts of subtle cues from accents to shoe styles ח into consideration when evaluating whether a potential hire will fit their corporate culture. Let's face it: The more conservative look typically wins out.
L'via Weisinger, a registered nurse from Teaneck, New Jersey, is an Orthodox Jew who always covers her hair. She usually wears a beret, but when she goes on job interviews, she opts for a wig, which she says seems less conspicuous. Four years ago, when she landed a job at a prestigious Manhattan hospital, her recruiter advised her to skip the beret and wear the wig to work instead. "It was something to the effect of, 'We don't want you to stand out,' and if I wore a wig, it wouldn't be as noticeable that I was covering my hair," recalls Weisinger, 43. "I was a little taken aback but so grateful to have the job that I did it."
When Weisinger left to work at another hospital, she decided to wear a beret from the outset. But she senses that her new colleagues assume that she's too religious to share in their off-color jokes and late-night bull sessions, an important bonding ritual among the nurses. While they never overtly ostracize her, Weisinger says she doesn't feel entirely like one of the girls. Still, she's relieved to finally be herself at work, regardless of its impact on her social standing there. "I am an excellent nurse," Weisinger declares. "This beret does not define me it is just something on my head."
Weisinger's experience is typical for many women who struggle to maintain professional reputations unfettered by their strong religious or cultural identities. Invariably, there's a trade-off. As a dean at a large public charter school in Washington, D.C., Michele Gray oversees the teaching staff on six campuses and is responsible for writing the curriculum taught to 1,500 students. She's a well-known, highly regarded educator who usually wears her dreadlocked hair down while at work. But she pulls it back for important meetings, including one she recently attended with a potential donor. "I didn't want anyone else's preconceived notions to keep our school from getting the money that it deserved," Gray, 38, says. It's not that she feels she'll face discrimination because of her dreadlocks, but that the look might suggest a hippie sensibility or even a lack of polish among more buttoned-up crowds. She thinks she'll be taken more seriously if the focus is off her hair. "I want to make sure people know that I am smart and can do anything that is asked of me," Gray says. "So, yes, that means there are certain times I will wear my hair up. I want people to see me and hear what I have to say."
When Tiyash Bandyopadhyay moved to New York from Delhi and scored a high-paying job for a top-tier consulting firm, the then-24-year-old cut her hair in short layers and filled her closet with conservative suits. She didn't dream of wearing her colorful salwar kameez to work, though there were no explicit prohibitions against it in the company dress code. "Maybe it was my interpretation, but I felt there was an emphasis on people being all the same in terms of clothes and overall look," Bandyopadhyay says.
Two years later, after she took a job as a product manager for a software firm, she read an article about Indra Nooyi, the Indian-born chief executive of PepsiCo, who once went on a job interview wearing a sari and sometimes attends company functions in one. ("Never hide what makes you," Nooyi has said.) Inspired, Bandyopadhyay began to integrate some of her traditional Indian pieces into her work wardrobe. "Nooyi got something that I had been missing," Bandyopadhyay says. "I dropped my pseudo-identity. By being myself ח wearing Indian shirts and jewelry and talking about my holidays, like Diwali I was more comfortable, so I could talk to people on an individual level rather than having this wall in between us." While several colleagues applauded Bandyopadhyay for her bold sartorial choices, most barely even noticed. "It really became a nonevent," she adds. "I only wish I had done it sooner."
[url=http://www.marieclaire.com/career-money/jobs/articles/ethnicity-in-the-workplace]Wearing Ethnic Clothing At Work - Women Displaying Cultural Pride At The Office - Marie Claire[/url]
Interesting. My son had a therapist whose name was pronounced "meow". I think it also has to do with the field you enter. There was a black newscaster (this was a few years ago). she had a gap and if I remember she had to get braces to close the gap. There was another black female newscaster who wore an afro which I think presented a problem.
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Even though in theory we believe people should be free to express themselves within tasteful manners, the reality is that we live in an imperfect world.
In reference to the name issue ~ I live in San Diego which is very diverse. I still see people stereotyped based on their names pretty often.
I hope this country is moving toward a more open society. The fact that one does not 'dislike' a certain group does not mean stereotyping is ok.
I think many resumes get thrown in the trash because someone didn't like the name on it. If they have that kind of issue why would you want to work there anyway. Say you do get your foot in the door... what will you have to deal with on the job? Clothing choices can be dictated by your professional and it's not wise to buck the status quo in certain situations. Now hair is a very touchy subject because the standard may not be a viable choice for everyone.
I hired an African-American woman once that interviewed with straight hair and on her first day (3 wks later) was wearing her hair natural. I remember being surprised. We've both since moved on and she and I are actually close friends now. We laugh about it...
I have no proof my old boss did the whole "toss the resume based on name" deal, but I suspect he has... I KNOW he eliminated candidates because of tattoos.
My DH is an instructor and trains new hires for his company. The company brings in just about anyone within reason because they have to be trained on the technical skills required for the job and not everyone they bring in can pass. If they can't pass they can't stay with the company. Recently DH trained a CC guy with dreadlocks. The guy passed and then they told him he couldn't work with his hair like that because the job requires him to work in customers homes daily. I was expecting DH to say the man declined to take the job... nope he cut his hair so he could work.
So let me ask you this... would you have hired her if her hair was natural during the interview?
My hair is natural but I wear it in a bun for work. When I was hired years ago I had a relaxer and I let that go a couple of years ago. No one cares how I wear my hair because I've been here so long. I've got a co-worker who is a telecommuter and she has an old school Angela Davis blowout afro. It was a shock when I first saw her. People are confused when they see her because they don't quite know what to expect. If she militant or what? She's not... she's a hugger. LOL I've been meaning to ask her if she had the blowout when she was interviewed.
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Of course, I can't say with 100% certainty, but I highly suspect that I would have hired her. For one, she was absolutely qualified and secondly because I secretly (not so secretly) covet natural hair styles and would have wanted to pick her brain on how best to encourage my natural curl pattern!
I was surprised, but not negatively so... I haven't had a relaxer in nearly 15 years.
That reminds me, I received feedback back when from an AA manager, of course it was months later. Her commentary, and how she stood up for me because of what her CC peers thought of me was interesting. lol Just think, being seen as too confident, despite my friendly demeanor. She found their reasons suspect. That confirmed how I will always put my "best" and 'cautious" foot forward since regardless, one never know how you will be seen. I can imagine how they would feel intimidated more so if I had dreads. Sorry, but we can talk up being free to express ourselves, but the subtle perceptions are still there. When one has mouths to feed.. assimilating takes precedent.
I guess tolerance towards more ethnic wear is slowly changing. Most folks I know go to the interview as conservative as possible, regardless of the company's dress code. When showed up for an interview, I wore a suit even if the interview date was on their dress down Fridays. Even women with dreads will sweep back their hair.
Depends on the place of work/position. The more conservative.. the dress code will not deviate too much. My dh gets comments on his dress shirts, he likes to wear jewel toned shirts at times, but his great reputation precedes his occasional shirt preferences. lol .
Hmmm.. let me access my decoder program... Too confident = cocky. Yeah, I've gotten that one.
My previous manager said to me once "Fe, you're good, you're very good and you know it... but you should be more humble". Really? more humble... that was the only time I'd ever heard him acknowledge my performance. Based on his lack of feedback I thought I was simply doing an average job and was busting my behind to be better. So 'NO" I didn't know it.
Apparently I was not being humble by working my butt off... At the time I was the highest ranking African-American in the dept. I remember sitting there with mixed emotions. On one hand I was happy to hear that my performance was the best in the dept, but troubled that I was coming off as... I guess "cocky".
Nick, I agree assimilating takes precedent during the job interview... and depending on the culture of the company this may need to continue during the duration of your employment. In the case of my friend she alternates between wearing her hair straight and curly. At the time of her hire she was a junior level person in the dept... not much exposure throughout the company.
Goodness, reminds me of something else... my old boss was actually going to speak to HR about another junior level person in the dept (who had dreads) because of the smell of her hair products. I was BEYOND shocked that he was even considering it since he would only need to smell this smell (that was NOT offensive to anyone but him) IF he passed by her desk that was NOT near his office. I talked him out of it...
I worked for that **** for far too long...
nickchris
That reminds me, I received feedback back when from an AA manager, of course it was months later. Her commentary, and how she stood up for me because of what her CC peers thought of me was interesting. lol Just think, being seen as too confident, despite my friendly demeanor. She found their reasons suspect. That confirmed how I will always put my "best" and 'cautious" foot forward since regardless, one never know how you will be seen. I can imagine how they would feel intimidated more so if I had dreads. Sorry, but we can talk up being free to express ourselves, but the subtle perceptions are still there. When one has mouths to feed.. assimilating takes precedent.
I guess tolerance towards more ethnic wear is slowly changing. Most folks I know go to the interview as conservative as possible, regardless of the company's dress code. When showed up for an interview, I wore a suit even if the interview date was on their dress down Fridays. Even women with dreads will sweep back their hair.
Depends on the place of work/position. The more conservative.. the dress code will not deviate too much. My dh gets comments on his dress shirts, he likes to wear jewel toned shirts at times, but his great reputation precedes his occasional shirt preferences. lol .
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You just can't win. If you show your best you are being cocky if you do average you are a slacker. I'm so low key I've always been told to sell myself more. I finally did this on my last performance appraisal and that helped me big time. I always thought tooting your own horn was kind of crass if everyone could clearly see your work.