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In late April I finally sent a letter to my birthson, asking if he was interested in contact. I haven't heard anything from him yet, and I'm getting the feeling that I won't. He's still young (23) and maybe he just needs more time.
In any event, here's my question. Would you have been bothered by a request for contact, or would you see it in a positive light, even if you had no interest in reunion? The reason I ask is because I'm worried that I've upset him and he didn't want to hear from me at all. I just didn't want him thinking that I placed him for adoption and never looked back or thought about him again.
Does it help knowing that your birthparents cared enough to try to establish contact, even if you never wanted to?
I'm sorry if this comes out convulted, I can't seem to express what I'm thinking very well. I'm more sad than I've been letting on, even though I knew it would probably be like this.
Thanks for any help with this.
I don't believe we ever err in expressing our love for others.
During the ups and downs of my reunions, I have often been in situations where I felt a reunion was ending and that a letter I was sending might be my final contact with that person, ever. I always take several days and try to mull over "what do I need this person to know if we never speak again?" I always end up writing a letter, one I fully believe will likely not ever be responded to, and I express what that person has meant to me and my continued good wishes for his/her life. I have found that these letters end up being as much for me as for them. It's a wonderful feeling to know that I was honest, I was vulnerable, I said what I really felt, I let them know of my love, and I don't have to live the rest of my life wondering if they ever knew. It's often an amazing release for me and helps me feel some control over a situation I've had little control over.
As an adult adoptee, I can share that many times in my life between my teen years when I first had an opportunity for reunion until my mid-20s, I was so overwhelmed with emotions and with life that I could not respond to contact. (Ok, I'm still this way somewhat - I was told a few weeks ago that one of my parents has a serious illness and it's shut me down to the point I haven't been able to return the simplest of phone calls to people like the dentist or pet groomer).
Even when I couldn't respond, I always read the letters and I always appreciated them. My feelings on one way contact is to keep it up occasionally until you get a response. If someone doesn't want to hear from you, that person will let you know eventually. I'm not suggesting you overwhelm your birthson with communication - just maybe send a little card for his birthday with a warm wish and maybe a Christmas card with a photo tucked inside and note letting him know you think of him often.
Best wishes,
Snoopy
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dakotastitleic
In late April I finally sent a letter to my birthson, asking if he was interested in contact. I haven't heard anything from him yet, and I'm getting the feeling that I won't. He's still young (23) and maybe he just needs more time.
In any event, here's my question. Would you have been bothered by a request for contact, or would you see it in a positive light, even if you had no interest in reunion? The reason I ask is because I'm worried that I've upset him and he didn't want to hear from me at all. I just didn't want him thinking that I placed him for adoption and never looked back or thought about him again.
Does it help knowing that your birthparents cared enough to try to establish contact, even if you never wanted to?
I'm sorry if this comes out convulted, I can't seem to express what I'm thinking very well. I'm more sad than I've been letting on, even though I knew it would probably be like this.
Thanks for any help with this.
Dakota,
For me, I wanted any and all contact I could get. It never came. I am currently in the middle of a search/contact/hopeful reunion right now. (Look at the thread I started "My Search Chronicle"). It is impossible to put my mind in a place of "not interested in reunion" because I have wanted something for a long time. However, for me, it took me 23 YEARS to get myself to a place where I could reach out. I am the one reaching out to b'mom now. I am 40 now, and my adoption experience is likely different from his.
Give him time. Maybe a year, and then try again. At 23, I was still just barely getting serious about school and from 18 till then, all I wanted to do was drink and chase girls. I knew I wanted contact at that age, but it wasn't a priority. Your son could be in a similar stage of his life and even though he longs for some contact, he is not ready to deal with it.
Just to know my birth parents care about me would be a HUGE sense of relief. I see no way at all any adoptee would be upset or bothered to know their b-parents cared.
I hope this helps. I know I talk jumping around sometimes. Feel free to PM me if you want to ask more personal things. I don't mind at all offering opinion from my point of view if you are interested.
Just take a deep breath, try to relax, and find something to get your mind off the waiting. It could be a while, but I hope not. I understand what the waiting feels like. Thank goodness for my 5 year old and some vacation time this summer.
Jonathan
Thank you both for your insight - it confirms what I was thinking, that maybe he just needs more time. This contact came out of the blue for him (it was a closed adoption) and it must be a shock. I hope it helps him even if he doesn't need/want a reunion. The waiting is very hard but I know it's what I need to do - and yes - thank goodness for vacation! Time on the beach with my two little guys will be good for the soul.
Best wishes to both of you, and thanks again.
Thanks again.
The contact might not be current; he might not have seen it. I suggest repeating sending communication to him every 1 month, until he responds or the email bounces. I myself would want to receive such contact. Don't stop trying, until he flat out tells you he is not interested. And in that unlikely possibility, send him a way to contact you (and keep it active!), just in case he changes his mind. People change!
I know this may sound crazy but I don't see his letter to you as a rejection at all. He clearly has left the door open and I agree with steamweed - send him birthday and holiday cards and the occassional thinking of you, love you cards. As one wise adoptee told me "adoptees need mega proof that their moms love them and won't leave or give up on them again".
Going to his workplace was a very bad idea although I'm sure you had the best intentions!! Ultimately, you tried to trap him and forced him into a corner. I don't believe it is unreasonable for him to demand you never do that again.
Reunions don't create pain but bring up the pain that has been there all along. If you can look at it as his unwillingness to deal with the pain right now instead of rejection it isn't so crushing anymore.
Again, in no way was his letter a rejection at all IMO. If you can read up on his pain (like the primal wound) you will understand his terror and find you will have vast amounts of patience for him. As my wise adoptee friend told me "you lost him for 21 years and survived that, you know he's alive and where he is, you will survive whatever time it takes for him to come around".
This video really brought it home to me. :popcorn:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK0FUsvxcP0&feature=plcp]Terror is Non-negotiable - YouTube[/url]
and this one too...
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws_9e9C8gjU&feature=youtu.be]Fear of Mommy Love.mpg - YouTube[/url]
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VancouverShar
Reunions don't create pain but bring up the pain that has been there all along. If you can look at it as his unwillingness to deal with the pain right now instead of rejection it isn't so crushing anymore.
I love this. I'm printing it and going to hang it on my desk. Good words to remember! Thank you.
Katie1
My story is somewhat similar but my son is a little older. I searched for him not the other way around. I think this makes a huge difference. If the adoptee wants a reunion and does the searching, the likelihood of a successful reunion is more prevalent. I found him 5 years ago after 11 years of searching (this also was a closed adoption). I started my search for him the day he turned 18 and was finally able to reach out to him at age 34 (he is now 35). It took me 5 years to reach out to him after I located him. I was so frightened he would think I was disrupting his life.
I first made contact with him last year, 2010, when I sent a representative who called him. Then I sent a letter of introduction, left a voice message on his machine, and an additional letter with no response from him at all. He just ignored the whole contact thing. I finally dropped off a letter at his place of employment basically stating that I am very sorry he has opted not to reunite at this time which I wanted to personally hand to him, but he sent his boss to meet with me so I gave it to him to give to my son. His boss asked me to chat a bit, which I did and am very thankful for as he answered some questions that I only wanted to talk to my son about, but had no option to do that. I sent a thank you note to his boss for chatting with me. Finally, at this point I received a letter from my son. The wave of emotions was unbelievable when I saw that letter in the mail, but when I openned it, my world came crashing down. He basically said:
1. He has no ill will toward me
2. He never heard anything bad about me
3. He never really wanted me to know who he was
4. He does not have much of an interest in meeting with me. Maybe some day but not now.
5. He got my letters and contact info. If my contact info should change, I could let him know if I want to.
6. Never come to his place of employment like that again.
7. If I have business at his place of employment do not use it as an excuse to try to meet him or get info about him (which has never happened EVER so where he is getting this from I do not know).
8. Respect him and his space.
9. If something should change the way he feels he will let me know.
That is it in a nut shell. He lives very close to me (still living with his a-mother, his a-father passed in late 2009). He works in the same industry as I do plus I know some people who work at the same place he does. I have been at his place of employment quite a few times (before I knew he worked there & several times after). I am now trying to avoid having to go there because of his rejection. That is the other crazy thing, I am sure we have seen each other not knowing he was right in front of my face over the years. I am actively looking to get out of this industry which will help me not go to his place of employment again. I must say though that I do, even now, look for him when I go to the community as it is difficult not to look for him or try to see him drive by. Plus I have been going to this area for social activities since 1984 when he was only 8 years old, again not knowing this is the community where he lived.
This is quite dramatic for me because of the pleasure I have going to the area for many years, but now it adds a terrible feeling for me knowing that my son is right there and doesn't even want to meet me, to know where he comes from. But why should I change my social activity because of him not wanting to know anything about me or his beginnings? I was hoping that he was a "good man", but apparently this is not the case or at least with me. He does have a criminal background for a fight with his a-father and for pot.
The other sad part is I have a big box of items that I have been saving for him over the years, like pictures, I made a diamond ring for him with three diamonds in it representing him, me and his a-parents which I call the "Triad Ring", some significant documents and a couple of dvd's I made for him. I was hoping to give this box to him when I met him, but now it will not happen.
He just had a birthday this past June so I did sent him a basic birthday card (this was 6 months after I received his rejection letter). I was not sure if that was a good thing to do or not because of him not wanting any contact with me. Maybe some of the adoptees on this site can share with me their thoughts on this one and my whole situation.
I am absolutely crushed, sad, and having an extremely difficult time moving on with my life and letting go of him and the whole situation. I know I must do this. Any words of wisdom from people is greatly appreciated! Thanks.
KATIE, if I were the adoptee in this situation, I believe that I too would ask you to give it time and let me decide. First of all, it's an emotional shock to your son. Secondly, when he doesnt' respond, you take it upon yourself to actually go to his place of employment to hopefully meet him and talk to him?? Please don't take offense but I would have been livid and that alone, would have made up my mind. As an adoptee, I certainly would have needed time to absorb the fact that you wanted to meet. Then I would have to evaluate what that meeting will do to myself and my family (ie: parents). All of this take so much time to think about and I think that maybe you should have taken his silence as a sign that he wasn't ready. Maybe he never will be but please, give him that choice. He had NO choice in the adoption so let him have this one. If he's like me, he loves his parents and has no real reason to want to meet you. He probably as he said, has no bad feelings but in all honesty, if he is like me, he probably has no feelings at all toward you. You're a stranger. Now, I have grown older and I am seeing things slightly differently. My mom has passed aways so now I feel it's okay to look. She never would have stopped me but I would have felt like a traitor to her as she was such a great mom to me. Now, at 53, I will search for my medical information from my Bmother. I am praying that if she is still around, she does not want an intimate relationship with me but...I would love to have the opportunity now to thank her for her choice. That would be the only reason to meet her. Health info and to thank her. I cannot imagine someone coming to my workplace to meet and then...to talk to my boss about this when I am not there and clearly didn't want to meet? I think that really crossed the line hon. I hope all works out for the both of you. No more cards either. He told you what he wants and now it's time to respect that and wait and hope.:wings:
To Katie1, I'm going to disagree with Bhenson regarding the occassional cards. Of course, you don't want to overwhelm him but sending cards on birthdays, holidays, Christmas and the occasional just thinking of you note is exactly the right thing to do. I don't say this lightly. This is based on mounds and mounds of research with adoptees. If he truly wants you to have absolutely no contact with him (and he hasn't said that!) he will let you know. If he does then it's important you do stop all contact. Until then, it's important to show that you're in it for the long haul - just make sure the notes and cards are light - no long deep writings. Simple love you, thinking of you are what is best received.
Bhenson, I'm sorry you felt you had to wait until your amom passed before reaching out. It seems to be very common and I wish it wasn't that way but I understand it. It is heartbreaking to hear the stories of those that waited only to find a grave. I hope this isn't the case for you. I wish you all the best in your search. I would strongly recommend that you don't thank her though. That would be cruel. Have you had a chance to read up on the Baby Scoop Era? A truly horrifying time and I can almost guarantee it wasn't your mother's choice to lose you to adoption. She will have suffered a tremendous and often debilitating trauma in losing you. If you can, read the books The Girls Who Went Away and Wake up Little Suzie. You will have much more compassion for her. Good luck in your search :)
MoonBeam, it was an ah-ha moment for me, too! xoxoxo
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I really feel for your pain and I hope that he does change his mind one day. That being said, I am an adoptee and I would be very very upset if my birth mother ever came to my place of employment or continued to contact me after I expressed no interest. I think it is important to remember that you can't force it and it isn't fair to intrude on his life. I think contacting him initially was the right thing to do, and possibly one follow up. But after that, I would let him decide how to continue.
I do hope he changes his mind one day so that you can know a little about him, and maybe have a relationship one day.
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